@cheeseberry Thanks for helping. My problem, it turned out, was that after initial syntax (or perhaps field order, if that matters) the game renamed my game.prefs file after the crash and made a new one without me realising! I'm up and running fine now! (although I am curious what exactly triggers the game to auto-create that UserKeyActions field; it could be important if new players see these threads and wonder why they, too, don't have it.)

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@slam Here's the direct download link: https://github.com/FAForever/downlords-faf-client/releases/download/v2023.10.0/faf_windows-x64_2023_10_0.exe Once that's downloaded, double-click to open the installer & when prompted, select "Update current installation".

@lolthedestroyer Try temporarily changing your default browser in Windows Settings. If you're still not able to loging, please open Run (Windows-R), then copy/paste: %Appdata%\Forged Alliance Forever\logs. When the logs folder opens, sort by Date Modified. From there, drag/drop your client.log file (the Text Document file, not the .gz compressed files) into here so those that can help (not me) have that data to look at.

It was removed but added into the game again a week later cuz 4z0t managed to fix the performance issue

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@nex I don't know, kind of feels like we're exiting the vampire castle. A rigorous analytical solution for a better team rating is beyond my mathematical ability without some heavy research, but that doesn't mean there isn't one floating around out there. Also, given the setup we have, it's also possible to silently test alternative systems (TrueSkill was tested in the same way against Elo, graded based on their percent of wins predicted correctly). Mathematically the metric we want is the players ability to play the game and cooperate with their team well I would refer to that as a goal/outcome--but now I know where you're coming from. And I agree, that is the outcome I'm looking for. I can spitball about what metrics would be good for FAF (in game score? mass efficiency? kills?) but can't confidently say that using any of them wouldn't be abused/go sideways. @FtXCommando A meta-level correction would be to incorporate map statistics. Map gen maps have a larger effect, maps that other people play a lot have a larger effect (and vice versa), playing the same map over and over has a smaller effect*. *Could grade this based on size, terrain, and distribution of mass spots to catch all the gap clones. EDIT: After asking my friend Mr. GPT-4, looks like TrueSkill2 is a good starting point for all the above.

who?

That is sad.

damn at least link my profile when using my screenshots smh!

You got my vote for that lol

T2 arty is in general not a great counter to T2 arty so I'm not sure this really matters much. It is cool seeing the game's physics at work as that has always been a selling point of the game, but it is a bit annoying/confusing in the moment since this limitation isn't presented in the game in any way and you just see arty mysteriously not firing. Same with other situations where weapons cannot fire due to physics. Unfortunately there's probably nothing to be done unless we want to increase the muzzle velocity of arty, which I really don't think we do. In an alternate universe where we could make engine changes, it'd be really cool if the range ring took into account terrain and elevation and range actually varied by height changes in ways other than just "lol muzzle velocity too low/gravity too high"

Can you post a game log - thank you in advance. [image: 1696318628922-df6076dd-9a9b-4991-8baf-636441046a87-image.png]

@FunkOff Good to know. But this doesnt lower the efforts needed for your idea. I'll be glad if you look into Oxygen and example mission I was working on.

Thank you for the reply. Much appreciate it.