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2020 Fall Invitational Qualifier September 12, 2020 List of Games Played
Upper Bracket Set 1
Series 1 ChitChat_88 vs ThomasHiatt 12625958 on Ambush the Enemy 12626076 on Amoor
Series 2 Blast_Chilled vs WoundedElkNoob 12625946 on Ambush the Enemy 12626103 on Amoor 12626188 on Osiris
Series 3 Ryfun vs Yudi 12626118 on Ambush the Enemy 12626412 on Amoor
Series 4 BullyDozerNoob vs Inspektor_Kot 12625950 on Ambush the Enemy 12626086 on Amoor 12626178 on Osiris
Series 5 MadMozart vs Matri 12625931 on Ambush the Enemy 12626039 on Amoor
Series 6 ArchSimKat vs BlInChIk 12625939 on Ambush the Enemy 12626131 on Amoor 12626376 on Osiris
Series 7 Thalia vs TURBO2 12626033 on Ambush the Enemy 12626127 on Amoor
Series 8 Zasport vs ZLO 12626096 on Ambush the Enemy 12626183 on Amoor
Lower Bracket Set 1
Game 9 ChitChat_88 vs WoundedElkNoob 12626651 on Z-D Rasty Lite
Game 10 BullyDozerNoob vs Ryfun 12626584 on Z-D Rasty Lite
Game 11 archsimkat vs Matri 12626882 on Z-D Rasty Lite
Game 12 Thalia vs Zasport 12626349 on Z-D Rasty Lite
Upper Bracket Set 2 (Winners qualify to participate in the Fall Invitational)
Series 13 Blast_Chilled vs ThomasHiatt 12626517 on Desert Arena 12626822 on Oracle
Series 14 Inspektor_Kot vs Yudi 12626574 on Desert Arena 12626801 on Oracle
Series 15 BlInChIk vs MadMozart 12626907 on Desert Arena 12627106 on Oracle
Series 16 TURBO2 vs ZLO 12626341 on Desert Arena 12626522 on Oracle 12626817 on Norfair
Lower Bracket Set 2 (Winners qualify to participate in the Fall Invitational)
Game 17 Blast_Chilled vs Thalia 12627207 on Seton's Clutch - FAF Version
Game 18 archsimkat vs Inspektor_Kot 12627055 on Seton's Clutch - FAF Version
Game 19 MadMozart vs Ryfun 12627318 on Seton's Clutch - FAF Version
Game 20 WoundedElkNoob vs ZLO 12627187 on Seton's Clutch - FAF Version
Lower Bracket Set 3 (Players eliminated here are tied for 7th/8th place)
Game 21 Blast_Chilled vs Inspektor_Kot 12627323 on Arcane
Game 22 Ryfun vs WoundedElkNoob 12627585 on Arcane
Upper Bracket Set 3
Series 23 ThomasHiatt vs Yudi 12627215 on The Ganges Chasma 12627411 on Frithen
Series 24 BlInChIk vs TURBO2 12627311 on The Ganges Chasma 12627526 on Frithen
Lower Bracket Set 4 (Players eliminated here are tied for 5th/6th place)
Game 25 ThomasHiatt vs WoundedElkNoob 12627824 on Seraphim Glaciers
Game 26 BlInChIk vs Inspektor_Kot Not in Vault / on Seraphim Glaciers
Lower Bracket Set 5 (The player eliminated here takes 4th Place)
Game 27 BlInChIk vs ThomasHiatt Not in Vault / 8 - Badlands v4
Upper Bracket Set 4
Series 28 TURBO2 vs Yudi 12627968 on Williamson's Bridge 12628911 on Turtle Rocks
Lower Bracket Set 6 (The player eliminated here takes 3rd Place) Game 29 ThomasHiatt vs Yudi 12629651 on Syrtis Major
Grand Finals
Series 30 ThomasHiatt vs TURBO2 12639790 on Cobalt Valley 12639977 on Forbidden Pass v4 12640161 on Emerald Crater
Game 31 ThomasHiatt vs TURBO2 12640407 on Z-D Rasty Lite
Also: here is a search string that you can enter into the Java client to pull up all tournament games (copy it to your clipboard, then in the FAF client, check the box for: display search query, and then paste this into the query input field, and press enter to perform the search directly from the query input field).
id=="12625958",id=="12625931",id=="12625939",id=="12625946",id=="12625950",id=="12626033",id=="12626039",id=="12626076",id=="12626086",id=="12626096",id=="12626103",id=="12626118",id=="12626127",id=="12626131",id=="12626178",id=="12626183",id=="12626188",id=="12626341",id=="12626349",id=="12626376",id=="12626412",id=="12626517",id=="12626522",id=="12626574",id=="12626584",id=="12626651",id=="12626801",id=="12626817",id=="12626822",id=="12626882",id=="12626907",id=="12627055",id=="12627106",id=="12627187",id=="12627207",id=="12627215",id=="12627311",id=="12627318",id=="12627323",id=="12627411",id=="12627526",id=="12627585",id=="12627824",id=="12627968",id=="12628911",id=="12629651",id=="12639790",id=="12639977",id=="12640161",id=="12640407"
Legend of the Stars 2020 Qualifier Tournament #1 October 10, 2020 List of All Games Played
FIRST ROUND
Series 1 - BritlandNoob vs Tagada (BritlandNoob has also been known as Smudger and Smith_) 12826175 on Sweepwing Sanctum 12826297 on TAG_Craftious Maximus
Series 2 - [Vor]Tex vs WoundedElkNoob 12826129 on Williamson's Bridge 12826274 on hollow 12826453 on Crossfire Canal - FAF version
Series 3 - Swkoll vs Yudi 12826172 on Theta Passage - FAF version 12826312 on Theta Passage - FAF version 12826395 on Crossfire Canal - FAF version 12826767 on hollow
Series 4 - BullyDozerNoob vs F-Odin 12826071 on Twin Rivers 12826281 on Havasu Canyon
Series 5 - Espiranto vs Noob3 12826164 on Twin Rivers 12826595 on desert arena
Series 6 - archsimkat vs BlinChik 12826305 on Crossfire Canal - FAF version 12826675 on The Drunken Beetles Dance
Series 7 - Ryfun vs Turin Turambar 12826005 on Twin Rivers 12826196 on Setons Clutch - FAF version 12826429 on desert arena
Series 8 - Bennis vs ZLO 12826122 on Eye of the Storm - FAF version 12826392 on Crossfire Canal - FAF version
QUARTER-FINALS
Series 9 - Tagada vs WoundedElkNoob 12826780 on Crag Dunes 12826924 on Crag Dunes 12827052 on Crag Dunes 12827300 on Z-D Rasty Lite 12827498 on TAG_Craftious Maximus
Series 10 - F-Odin vs Swkoll 12827080 on Williamson's Bridge 12827165 on Havasu Canyon 12827388 on Sweepwing Sanctum
Series 11 - BlinChik vs Espiranto 12827169 on Eye of the Storm - FAF version 12827354 on Sweepwing Sanctum
Series 12 - Turin Turambar vs ZLO 12826677 on Eye of the Storm - FAF version 12826910 on Crossfire Canal - FAF version 12827499 on Sweepwing Sanctum 12827520 on Sweepwing Sanctum
SEMI-FINALS
Series 13 - Swkoll vs Tagada 12827749 on desert arena 12827952 on Z-D Rasty Lite
Series 14 - Espiranto vs Turin Turambar 12827791 on Crag Dunes 12827982 on Twin Rivers
Bronze Match - Espiranto vs Swkoll 12828328 on Williamson's Bridge 12828490 on Twin Rivers
Finals - Tagada vs Turin Turambar 12828266 on Eye of the Storm - FAF version 12828814 on Sweepwing Sanctum 12828997 on Z-D Rasty Lite
id=="12826175",id=="12826005",id=="12826071",id=="12826122",id=="12826129",id=="12826164",id=="12826172",id=="12826196",id=="12826274",id=="12826281",id=="12826297",id=="12826305",id=="12826312",id=="12826392",id=="12826395",id=="12826429",id=="12826453",id=="12826595",id=="12826675",id=="12826677",id=="12826767",id=="12826780",id=="12826910",id=="12826924",id=="12827052",id=="12827080",id=="12827165",id=="12827169",id=="12827300",id=="12827354",id=="12827388",id=="12827498",id=="12827499",id=="12827520",id=="12827749",id=="12827791",id=="12827952",id=="12827982",id=="12828266",id=="12828328",id=="12828490",id=="12828814",id=="12828997"
Fall Invitational Group Stage Games September 19, 2020 List of All Games Played
GROUP A Petric, JaggedAppliance, BlinChik, and Ryfun
Series A1 - BlInChIk vs JaggedAppliance 12680893 on Turtle Rocks 12681074 on Adaptive Maridia
Series A2 - Petric vs Ryfun 12680864 on 8 - Badlands_v4 12681053 on Arcane
Series A3 - JaggedAppliance vs Petric 12681358 on 8 - Badlands_v4 12681645 on Generated Map
Series A4 - BlInChIk vs Ryfun 12681393 on Cobalt Valley 12681491 on Generated Map
Series A6 - BlInChIk vs Petric 12682115 on The Bermuda Locket 12682304 on Generated Map
GROUP B Tagada, Paralon/ZLO, Yudi, Blast_Chilled (it appears that Paralon dropped out during the tournament and ZLO, as a substitute, took his place)
Series B1 - Paralon vs Yudi 12680935 on Cobalt Valley 12681372 on Cobalt Valley 12681470 on Adaptive Maridia
Series B2 - Blast_Chilled vs Tagada 12680862 on Adaptive Maridia 12681184 on Generated Map
Series B3 - Tagada vs ZLO 12681754 on Setons Clutch - FAF version 12682026 on Generated Map
Series B4- Blast_Chilled vs Yudi 12681704 on Chiron 12681861 on Arcane
Series B5 - Blast_Chilled vs ZLO 12682227 on Seraphim Glaciers 12682838 on Arcane
Series B6 - Tagada vs Yudi 12682240 on Amoor 12682355 on Setons Clutch - FAF version
GROUP C Nexus, Espiranto, ThomasHiatt, Inspektor_Kot
Series C1 - Espiranto vs ThomasHiatt 12680993 on Frithen 12681166 on Point of Reach v4
Series C2 - Inspektor_Kot vs Nexus 12680896 on Cobalt Valley 12681140 on Arcane
Series C3 - Espiranto vs Nexus 12681459 on Point of Reach v4 12681641 on Frithen
Series C4 - Inspektor_Kot vs ThomasHiatt 12681318 on Frithen 12681482 on Forbidden Pass v4 12681678 on Forbidden Pass v4
Series C5 - Espiranto vs Inspektor_Kot 12681952 on Frithen 12682153 on crazyrush
Series C6 - Nexus vs ThomasHiatt 12681868 on Arcane 12681964 on Cobalt Valley
GROUP D Archsimkat, TurinTurambar, TURBO2, WoundedElkNoob
Series D1 - TURBO2 vs Turin Turambar 12680888 on Niflheim - Final II v2 12681125 on Setons Clutch - FAF version
Series D2 - archsimkat vs WoundedElkNoob 12681007 on The Ganges Chasma 12681119 on The Ganges Chasma 12681243 on Cobalt Valley
Series D3 - archsimkat vs Turin Turambar 12681673 on Niflheim - Final II v2 12681802 on Crossfire Canal - FAF version 12682352 on The Crucible
Series D4 - TURBO2 vs WoundedElkNoob 12681718 on Setons Clutch - FAF version 12682066 on The Ganges Chasma
Series D5 - Turin Turambar vs WoundedElkNoob 12682789 on Setons Clutch - FAF version 12683011 on Niflheim - Final II v2
Series D6 - archsimkat vs TURBO2 12682797 on Adaptive Maridia 12683021 on Cobalt Valley 12683145 on Crossfire Canal - FAF version
Also: here is a search string that you can enter into the Java client to pull up all group stage tournament games (copy it to your clipboard, then in the FAF client, check the box for: display search query, and then paste this into the query input field, and press enter to perform the search directly from the query input field).
id=="12680862",id=="12680864",id=="12680888",id=="12680893",id=="12680896",id=="12680935",id=="12680993",id=="12681007",id=="12681053",id=="12681074",id=="12681119",id=="12681125",id=="12681140",id=="12681166",id=="12681184",id=="12681243",id=="12681318",id=="12681358",id=="12681372",id=="12681393",id=="12681459",id=="12681470",id=="12681482",id=="12681491",id=="12681641",id=="12681645",id=="12681673",id=="12681678",id=="12681704",id=="12681718",id=="12681754",id=="12681802",id=="12681861",id=="12681868",id=="12681952",id=="12681964",id=="12682026",id=="12682066",id=="12682115",id=="12682153",id=="12682227",id=="12682240",id=="12682304",id=="12682352",id=="12682355",id=="12682789",id=="12682797",id=="12682838",id=="12683011",id=="12683021",id=="12683145"
2020 Fall Invitational Round of 8 and Semi-Finals September 26, 2020 List of All Games Played
ROUND OF 8
Series 1 - Petric vs Turin Turambar 12728585 on crazyrush 12728786 on Frithen 12728883 on Z-D Rasty Lite 12729025 on The Bermuda Locket
Series 2 - archsimkat vs Nexus 12728773 on Frithen 12729015 on crazyrush 12729227 on Z-D Rasty Lite
Series 3 - Espiranto vs Tagada 12728602 on crazyrush 12728808 on Open Palms 12728942 on Frithen
Series 4 - BlinChik vs TURBO2 12728598 on Painted Desert Rebalanced 12728714 on Painted Desert Rebalanced 12728911 on White Fire v2 12729094 on The Ditch 12729410 on Palaneum 12729608 on crazyrush
Series 5 - Nexus vs Petric 12729793 on Painted Desert Rebalanced 12729534 on Crag Dunes 12729675 on Cobalt Valley
Series 6 - Tagada vs TURBO2 12729942 on Forbidden Pass v4 12730118 on Cobalt Valley 12730381 on Painted Desert Rebalanced 12730642 on Setons Clutch - FAF version 12731045 on White Fire v2
Also: here is a search string that you can enter into the Java client to pull up all Round of 8 and Semifinals tournament games (copy it to your clipboard, then in the FAF client, check the box for: display search query, and then paste this into the query input field, and press enter to perform the search directly from the query input field).
id=="12728585",id=="12728598",id=="12728602",id=="12728714",id=="12728773",id=="12728786",id=="12728808",id=="12728883",id=="12728911",id=="12728942",id=="12729015",id=="12729025",id=="12729094",id=="12729227",id=="12729410",id=="12729534",id=="12729608",id=="12729675",id=="12729793",id=="12729942",id=="12730118",id=="12730381",id=="12730642",id=="12731045"
A common setup: 2 quantum gateways, with hives in between. The gateways make RAS SACUs. The hives assist both of the gateways, alternating between them. This way, the hives are almost always active.
If there was only 1 gateway, during the "roll-off time," the hives would be idle, so you would not able to use all that build power as efficiently.
But what if you are not Cybran? Can you achieve the same thing, with normal engineers? You can, actually.
You can get engineers to behave this way (alternating between supporting 2 quantum gateways) simply by placing an "assist" order on the ground near the gateways.
You can see this in replay #12819570
I selected all of the engineers and gave them a single (shared) assist order that was placed on the ground near the 2 gateways. At first, about half supported the left and half supported the right. Soon after, they synchronized and began alternating between left and right.
In replay #12819438 I did something a little more complicated. I picked a "lead" engineer who had an assist order on the ground. The other engineers all assisted this lead engineer. That guaranteed that all of them only ever supported one gateway at a time (whichever one the lead engineer decided to assist).
I suppose you could also use this technique, if you planted some engineers between 2-4 factories, and gave an assist order on the ground, they would alternate between supporting different factories rather than being idle during roll-off time (if they were ordered to assist just 1 factory). Which could help to more efficiently produce units, especially at the t2/t3 stage.
2020 Fall Invitational Finals and Third Place Set September 27, 2020 List of All Games Played
Third Place Set - Petric vs Tagada 12736992 on Palaneum 12736855 on crazyrush 12736806 on Setons Clutch - FAF version
Grand Finals - Nexus vs TURBO2 12738400 on Open Palms 12738510 on The Bermuda Locket 12738711 on Z-D Rasty Lite 12738921 on Crag Dunes
Also: here is a search string that you can enter into the Java client to pull up all Finals and Third Place games (copy it to your clipboard, then in the FAF client, check the box for: display search query, and then paste this into the query input field, and press enter to perform the search directly from the query input field).
id=="12736806",id=="12736855",id=="12736992",id=="12738400",id=="12738510",id=="12738711",id=="12738921"
@FunkOff In order to have procedural generation of "fair" asymmetric maps I think we would need much more advanced AI, similar to what DeepMind did with StarCraft II. If there were highly-skilled AIs that could duel it out on maps thousands of times, it would become possible to programmatically test what kind of asymmetric distributions are fair vs. unfair. An AI map-making agent could learn from those experiments how to develop "fair" asymmetric maps.
Before anyone attempts to make a mapgen that creates fair asymmetric maps, maybe we should create a few by hand? Perhaps we need a map-making tournament for people to create some "fair" 1v1 or 2v2 maps that have significant amounts of asymmetry? I'm talking about significantly more asymmetry than just "the map is symmetrical but there is an island in the middle with kind of a bean shape."
If the financial incentive was big enough, people might participate. I personally would like to see "fair" asymmetrical maps become part of the ladder pool. I think it looks nice when maps aren't always mirrored and probably makes for more interesting games. Since the ladder pool is already divided by rating, we could just remove the asymmetrical maps from the 1700+ pool (where small differences might affect game outcomes in a significant way).
if anyone with less skill complained, we could just blame the victim. If someone said "I have 1340 rating and I lost a ladder match on Asymmetrical River Map, get rid of asymmetrical maps from the ladder pool" we could say "I watched the replay and you made these 3 obvious embarrassing mistakes, git good noob"
This happens to me as well. I think it is as Axel says, there are notifications from other programs (or perhaps, from the OS itself) that appear in the bottom-right of the screen. I can't see them because Windows is letting SupCom have priority in terms of drawing on my screen, but Windows is still allowing me to click on them. Once Windows thinks I clicked on a notification, it pulls me out of the game, and I have to try to alt-tab or whatever to get SupCom open again on my screen.
It hasn't bothered me enough that I've even tried turning off notifications.
@Whatsisname "Or shift-g?"
In Replay #12819902 I used shift-g. You can fast forward to about 3:30 to see what happens. Shift-g doesn't help at all. What you end up with is half of the engineers are only assisting the left factory and half of the engineers are only assisting the right factory. So it doesn't help at all.
"I gotta try this. I assume it works for any kind of factory?"
Yes, an engineer that has an assist-ground order will assist any kind of factory within a certain range. I think the range might be "within a distance from the assist order equal to the engineer's guard radius" or double the guard radius, or something along those lines. They will also assist with finishing buildings that are under construction and assist with other things like loading TMLs or repairing units.
@Mvk_ "Would patrol do the same function between the gateways?"
No, it's not the same. On a patrol order, the units move around more. I think the issue is: on an assist order, they are willing to assist something within their maximum build range. But on a patrol order, some of them want to move closer to a factory before they begin assisting it.
Replay #12819836 shows what happens with patrol. You can see there is a significant amount of walking.
This walking also results in the engineers assisting both factories at the same time, instead of alternating between them.
I would like to see reclaim happen at speeds based on the amount of resources. So if you're reclaiming 100 mass worth of broken trees, that should be about as fast as 100 mass of dead tanks or 100 mass of rocks. You would have to have engineers take less time, basically zero downtime, between reclaiming different targets. That would reduce the need for manual reclaim orders, because attack-move would be nearly as efficient. If you could shovel 100 mass into your face just as fast with attack move as with manual reclaim orders there would be a lot less clicking.
Another way to fix it might be to have attack move always work like factory attack move (where the engineer walks to the waypoint and then reclaims at guard range, instead of traveling down the path acting like it is on patrol). You could quickly queue up a series of attack-move orders so you don't have to babysit engineers and constantly adjust their orders to get the benefit of factory attack move. FAM can be at least as good as manual reclaim orders, so in most situations, manual reclaim would be unhelpful.