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Decapitation should be a rated victory condition

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    snoog
    last edited by 24 Feb 2023, 13:30

    I'd like to see it ranked as well. I could see myself making my games Decap instead of FS from time to time.

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      BlackYps
      last edited by 24 Feb 2023, 14:03

      Maybe we could change the "show modded games" option to "hide unranked mods" so ranked mods can get more visibility

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        Sheikah
        last edited by 24 Feb 2023, 14:30

        The server doesn't currently tell you whether mods are ranked or not so this has the same problem of requiring API queries from everyone for every mod in the list as just the general requests for is this game rated or not.

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          BlackYps
          last edited by 24 Feb 2023, 16:11

          So we would need a server change first to send the info if the mods used are ranked?

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            Sheikah
            last edited by 24 Feb 2023, 16:17

            Yes, or even the full blown server implementation of is this game ranked check.

            But would also need to be smart about how often the db is called and caching.

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              veteranashe
              last edited by 24 Feb 2023, 16:30

              When you lose your com do you lose e and m storage as well?

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                Mach
                last edited by Mach 24 Feb 2023, 16:35

                if you mean acu's storages, it is tied to the unit itself so yes

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                  veteranashe
                  last edited by 24 Feb 2023, 16:52

                  Yes, yeah sound like a fun game mode

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                    Farer
                    last edited by 6 Apr 2023, 12:53

                    So... is this going to be implemented? I think it would be a really good game mode! especially in games that have a large variance in ratings between teammates.

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                      Caliber
                      last edited by 6 Jan 2024, 23:27

                      is this still being implemented?

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                        phong
                        last edited by 7 Jan 2024, 05:30

                        @Caliber you can track the progress on this feature here: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/issues/5347

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                          Caliber
                          last edited by 14 Jan 2025, 14:25

                          Om guessing this idea has been put aside?

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                            Sainse @Caliber
                            last edited by 15 Jan 2025, 04:29

                            @Caliber it’s not, it just takes ages to be done

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                              IndexLibrorum Global Moderator
                              last edited by 15 Jan 2025, 05:07

                              I thought this was a great suggestion and would love to see it in game. It'd make comsnipes on low ranks something you want to do again, rather than having to fight to keep them alive against their own suicidal tendencies to make sure the 2k on their team doesn't get fed 3 extra bases.

                              "Design is an iterative process. The required number of iterations is one more than the number you have currently done. This is true at any point in time."

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                                Deribus Global Moderator
                                last edited by 15 Jan 2025, 14:19

                                Moved to General Discussion

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                                  snoog
                                  last edited by 15 Jan 2025, 15:25

                                  I would 100% start playing this over full share.

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                                    Crofis
                                    last edited by 15 Jan 2025, 16:22

                                    I really like the decapitation format, a while ago i tried to gather enough players to have regular games and some feedback to balance the mod (some say there are unbalanced things like com ctrl+k, although that's debatable imo, but verifying it in a game could give an answer). Sadly the recruiting process didn't have much success, and except for deribus bringing it in the community game night, the thing died there.

                                    I think the mod has a few strong points like nerfing cheese all-in strategies to snipe coms (which are harmful to both killer and victim imo, we're talking low elo, game enjoyment, eco shape and stuff like that). I don't know if it could work in a similar balance state to normal assassination or if it would require separate balance changes, nonetheless i see some potential in the mod, which could imo become more fun than the standard one we have now. Unlike ftx i would like to see a matchmaker for decapitation, but i believe we don't have enough players for that, nor people to take care of its balance separately in case it's needed. Mind that when i say decapitation i mean to take the fundamental concept of "when your com dies you don't lose your stuff", but along with that my "ideal" decap mod has some more changes that go along (e.g. imo overflow is harmful in early and low elo cause it messes with your sense of balance, and i'd remove it. Maybe more than just decapitation i'd like to realize my own version of tmm, idk).

                                    Anyway, if decapitation could be implemented in the victory conditions to make its lobbies immune to mod filter i think they would see more success, and i would for sure like to join to play some.

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                                      Nuggets
                                      last edited by 15 Jan 2025, 21:42

                                      I tried to get a mod rated recently. The perfect organisation of FAF told me to talk to 3 different teams with each team telling me to talk to that guy and that guy and nobody could make the call to get it rated.

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                                        Vindex @Nuggets
                                        last edited by 15 Jan 2025, 22:26

                                        @Nuggets unlucky

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                                          Caliber
                                          last edited by 16 Jan 2025, 22:40

                                          If this mode ever gets implemented i believe it would become the standard and most played option. and will ease my personal hatred of t2 air sniping which the balance team see as no issue with, even though 9/10 games end with early com snipes making the average game length of 12-15 mins and with the average lobby length about 30mins not exact. = proves that FAF players prefer lobby sim over actual game.

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