DDoS and now something new again?
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@Sainse The logging level should be DEBUG and the box for the ICE log has to be checked. IRC is logged by default.
@Thorkan PM conversations can not be seen again, when the client was closed. When you have indications or evidence that there is a malicious actor, then contact the moderators through a moderation ticket, please.
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man this is frustrating. half my games i disconnect within 6 minutes of the game starting. Completely drops my internet. These losers need to get a life and stop trying to ruin FAF
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Same. Now, I failed to connect to players in any lobby -- am I being personally attacked, due to my IP being exposed?
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Had the first time experiencing this like 2-3 weeks ago when somewhere in the first 0-5 min of a game like 5/6 out of 12 ppl's internet completely bricked.
Since then i've had my internet crash like 2/3 times (most of the time only for +-2 min), and for comparison i normally have issues like once a year.
Dont have any logs sadly didn't think of it, just putting it here as another point on a graph.
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@LimeZ3_ said in DDoS and now something new again?:
HBO in network security
What is "an HBO in network security"?
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I was not aware that public ips can be seen in any game. Since i now know this i will never play faf without vpn again because this is an absolute disaster for someone like me who hosts his own stuff
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@Nuggets As far as I am aware, all games that use peer to peer will in general expose your IP. Supreme Commander is not any different here. There's an interesting support ticket about the topic from Steam Support:
The solution is to work via relays. Which is what Brutus describes here:
@Brutus5000 said in DDoS and now something new again?:
The ice adapter can do that in theory. This is called using a relay server. We used to run our own but they get killed by DDoS too. Now we are running the relay servers at a 3rd party provider but they are very expensive. so we cannot allow everybody to use it just to hide their ips.
We tried a cheaper provider but it doesn't work with the current ice adapter. So we're trying to rewrite it, but it doesn't work reliably beyond 1v1
We're not there yet though. And we could really use the help of people with the right expertise to investigate it further.
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I didnt formulate myself correctly. I was aware that you see ips of others while ingame with them. However, these attacks happened by people outside of these games without ever having connected to the lobby
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Time to take out my "The end is near" sign. This shit is legit scary. I am not logging in until this is over.
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Anecdotally, after mucking around in 2 lobbies that instantly crashed for 40 mins, I went to play Starcraft 2 ladder and got 2 disconnects that forced me to forfeit a few hours apart, which is very rare (2 in one day is unheard of). So yeah I would not play custom lobbies without unplugging your router for 10 mins afterward if you play other competitive games like Starcraft or Counter Strike because until your IP changes it's gonna get hit.
Really unfortunate stuff, although I can't say I'm surprised people this manchildtarded lurk among the playerbase.
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Same thing here. Thought my pc was broken. I even timed out connecting to this forum. AFter exiting the game nothing would load until I ran a network test and the Nvidia overlay popped up like id just entered a game again and my internet suddenly works perfectly.
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SO how GAF makes their new Fire adapter? Does they spend so much money for this? Do faf realy cant spend donations to save server? Im sure it shouldnt cost so much money anyway, it cant be superexpensive just to fix this fuckn ip leak. Do this or faf dies, dont u understand? Let's just wait for it to go away on its own as always.
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I checked with my internet provider
They said "your IP is dynamic and it changes automatically once every 24 h"
There is no way I can change my IP myself, outside of that -
@Lenkin
Just a "what if"
What if GAF has all the same vulnerabilities, but just doesn't get ddosed?
I can only guess the reasons why.Make t3 mex, not war
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@Defiant university degree, dutch version
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@LimeZ3_ said in DDoS and now something new again?:
@Lenkin
Just a "what if"
What if GAF has all the same vulnerabilities, but just doesn't get ddosed?
I can only guess the reasons why.My understanding is GAF does get DDOSed, but it routes all its connections through a central server so it's much less of a problem. It can do that because it has MUCH fewer players than FAF does
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@Brutus5000 Is it possible to have a client update for the weekend where all connections go through relay only, to see what happens?
Better / worse / the same.Currently completely unplayable.
Unless you are already working on a good solution, I don't see any other plan that can be implemented quickly to possibly improve the situation.At the very least, further steps could then be planned based on the knowledge gained.
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@Lenkin is GAF getting DDossed too? i
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@Sturmgewehr said in DDoS and now something new again?:
@Brutus5000 Is it possible to have a client update for the weekend where all connections go through relay only, to see what happens?
Better / worse / the same.Currently completely unplayable.
Unless you are already working on a good solution, I don't see any other plan that can be implemented quickly to possibly improve the situation.At the very least, further steps could then be planned based on the knowledge gained.
Yes, this is what we did for now. If this solves it, we'll work on more cost-effective solutions to keep it like that.
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