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    DDoS and now something new again?

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    • ZLOZ Offline
      ZLO @Thorkan
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      @Thorkan But how exactly do you know that you got ddosed?

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        Thorkan @ZLO
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        @ZLO My Internet went down for several hours. Nothing loaded anymore. Same with other devices on the same Wifi, like my phone.

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        • Brutus5000B Offline
          Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
          last edited by

          Ever since my internet recovered I seem to be the laggy one in games.

          Unless you have a static ip, which is super rare and usually costs extra it is highly unlikely that you notice any difference once the DDoS stops. That sounds like different problems.

          He said, "I've been to the year 3000
          Not much has changed, but they live underwater
          And your great-great-great-granddaughter
          Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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          • BlackYpsB Offline
            BlackYps
            last edited by

            It would certainly be interesting to find out why your internet went down completely. Maybe you can find some sort of logs in your router?

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              Thorkan @BlackYps
              last edited by

              @BlackYps I'ts the landlords router. I don't have access. Does anyone have answers to my 2 questions? That's were we have a clue.

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              • maggeM Offline
                magge Moderator FAF Association Board
                last edited by magge

                @Sainse The logging level should be DEBUG and the box for the ICE log has to be checked. IRC is logged by default.

                @Thorkan PM conversations can not be seen again, when the client was closed. When you have indications or evidence that there is a malicious actor, then contact the moderators through a moderation ticket, please.

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                • P Offline
                  Prophet-
                  last edited by

                  man this is frustrating. half my games i disconnect within 6 minutes of the game starting. Completely drops my internet. These losers need to get a life and stop trying to ruin FAF

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                  • R Offline
                    rampeer
                    last edited by

                    Same. Now, I failed to connect to players in any lobby -- am I being personally attacked, due to my IP being exposed?

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                    • KnownSniperK Offline
                      KnownSniper
                      last edited by

                      Had the first time experiencing this like 2-3 weeks ago when somewhere in the first 0-5 min of a game like 5/6 out of 12 ppl's internet completely bricked.

                      Since then i've had my internet crash like 2/3 times (most of the time only for +-2 min), and for comparison i normally have issues like once a year.

                      Dont have any logs sadly didn't think of it, just putting it here as another point on a graph.

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                        Defiant @LimeZ3_
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                        @LimeZ3_ said in DDoS and now something new again?:

                        HBO in network security

                        What is "an HBO in network security"?

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                        • N Offline
                          Nuggets FAF Association Board
                          last edited by

                          I was not aware that public ips can be seen in any game. Since i now know this i will never play faf without vpn again because this is an absolute disaster for someone like me who hosts his own stuff

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                            Jip @Brutus5000
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                            @Nuggets As far as I am aware, all games that use peer to peer will in general expose your IP. Supreme Commander is not any different here. There's an interesting support ticket about the topic from Steam Support:

                            • https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/1433-AD20-F11D-B71E

                            The solution is to work via relays. Which is what Brutus describes here:

                            @Brutus5000 said in DDoS and now something new again?:

                            The ice adapter can do that in theory. This is called using a relay server. We used to run our own but they get killed by DDoS too. Now we are running the relay servers at a 3rd party provider but they are very expensive. so we cannot allow everybody to use it just to hide their ips.

                            We tried a cheaper provider but it doesn't work with the current ice adapter. So we're trying to rewrite it, but it doesn't work reliably beyond 1v1

                            We're not there yet though. And we could really use the help of people with the right expertise to investigate it further.

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                              Nuggets FAF Association Board
                              last edited by

                              I didnt formulate myself correctly. I was aware that you see ips of others while ingame with them. However, these attacks happened by people outside of these games without ever having connected to the lobby

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                              • K Offline
                                Kilatamoro
                                last edited by

                                Time to take out my "The end is near" sign. This shit is legit scary. I am not logging in until this is over.

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                                • ZeldafanboyZ Offline
                                  Zeldafanboy
                                  last edited by

                                  Anecdotally, after mucking around in 2 lobbies that instantly crashed for 40 mins, I went to play Starcraft 2 ladder and got 2 disconnects that forced me to forfeit a few hours apart, which is very rare (2 in one day is unheard of). So yeah I would not play custom lobbies without unplugging your router for 10 mins afterward if you play other competitive games like Starcraft or Counter Strike because until your IP changes it's gonna get hit.

                                  Really unfortunate stuff, although I can't say I'm surprised people this manchildtarded lurk among the playerbase.

                                  put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                                  • H Offline
                                    hulgarth
                                    last edited by

                                    Same thing here. Thought my pc was broken. I even timed out connecting to this forum. AFter exiting the game nothing would load until I ran a network test and the Nvidia overlay popped up like id just entered a game again and my internet suddenly works perfectly.

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                                    • xxx_LenKing_xxxX Offline
                                      xxx_LenKing_xxx
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                                      SO how GAF makes their new Fire adapter? Does they spend so much money for this? Do faf realy cant spend donations to save server? Im sure it shouldnt cost so much money anyway, it cant be superexpensive just to fix this fuckn ip leak. Do this or faf dies, dont u understand? Let's just wait for it to go away on its own as always.

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                                      • LimeZ3_L Offline
                                        LimeZ3_ @LimeZ3_
                                        last edited by

                                        I checked with my internet provider
                                        They said "your IP is dynamic and it changes automatically once every 24 h"
                                        There is no way I can change my IP myself, outside of that

                                        Make t3 mex, not war

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                                        • LimeZ3_L Offline
                                          LimeZ3_ @xxx_LenKing_xxx
                                          last edited by

                                          @Lenkin
                                          Just a "what if"
                                          What if GAF has all the same vulnerabilities, but just doesn't get ddosed?
                                          I can only guess the reasons why.

                                          Make t3 mex, not war

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                                          • LimeZ3_L Offline
                                            LimeZ3_ @Defiant
                                            last edited by

                                            @Defiant university degree, dutch version

                                            Make t3 mex, not war

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