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What is going on with FAF?

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    FireMyth
    last edited by 10 Jan 2024, 23:11

    why is someone so intent on taking down faf of all things?

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      Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
      last edited by 11 Jan 2024, 08:09

      Because we banned them for misbehavior and this is the reaction.

      He said, "I've been to the year 3000
      Not much has changed, but they live underwater
      And your great-great-great-granddaughter
      Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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        A Former User
        last edited by 14 Jan 2024, 08:59

        It is getting worse.

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          Reckless_Charger
          last edited by 14 Jan 2024, 12:13

          So is it known who the individual(s) performing ddos attacks are? Have they also set up their own faf servers or are they entirely different groups?

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            Deribus Global Moderator
            last edited by 14 Jan 2024, 14:27

            It is not

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              VivalaRUS @Brutus5000
              last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 07:01

              @brutus5000 My point of view is that it's not just because of the ban. I think it's about the rottenness of people and the thirst for profit, I assume that they expect and hope that people will move from the faf to their created servers (and if you call a spade a spade, it's just a stolen idea of a "faf server"). And if people switch to them, then there will be donations. Such "people" will sell their Mother for money.... I do not see any other meaning of DDOS attacks (here a person loves the game and cannot play it, because there are technical failures, and "unexpectedly" there is an alternative, of course this player will go to play where there is an opportunity ...).I repeat, this is my personal opinion

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                VivalaRUS
                last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 07:04

                For some, a faf server is just a competitor...

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                  A Former User
                  last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 09:03

                  I'd rather move to BAR than one of these servers while I wait for Sanctuary.

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                    snoog
                    last edited by snoog 17 Jan 2024, 14:29

                    I think I'm about ready for a break. Besides playing like absolute dogshit lately, the connection issues returned are just making the game nearly completely unenjoyable once again. I find myself spending more time in lobbys and incomplete games than actually playing these days.

                    For your enjoyment, not even sure wtf is happening here:
                    https://streamable.com/qr1mg6

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                      TankenAbard
                      last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 14:49

                      I haven't had any issues personally, though I'm in the US playing with others in the US, is this an international problem? I'm not seeing it.

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                        Saver
                        last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 16:13

                        Unfortunately I had problems yesterday. After three tries we stopped it.

                        auch mal fünf gerade sein lassen

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                          A Former User @TankenAbard
                          last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 18:34

                          @tankenabard Interesting. I am in Russia, and I have these problems. What if only relays close to Russia are under attack?

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                            snoog @A Former User
                            last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 18:39

                            @melanol said in What is going on with FAF?:

                            @tankenabard Interesting. I am in Russia, and I have these problems. What if only relays close to Russia are under attack?

                            Anecdotal experience, I feel like most of my issues are in games with Russians.

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                              A Former User @snoog
                              last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 21:09

                              @snoog Because they happen to use these relays?

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                                DonDraper
                                last edited by 15 Feb 2024, 05:47

                                Game is fucking unplayable.

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                                  Ctrl-K
                                  last edited by 15 Feb 2024, 08:39

                                  @DonDraper Skill issue.

                                  “Be a yardstick of quality. Some people aren’t used to an environment where excellence is expected.”
                                  — Steve Jobs.
                                  My UI Mods
                                  Support me

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                                    DonDraper
                                    last edited by 15 Feb 2024, 18:05

                                    Oh really its a skill issue when

                                    1/5 of games lag so bad they end up with drops causing a desynch condition

                                    1/4 of games are DOA because someone disconnects on launch...

                                    1/2 of games are lagging so bad that someone drops in the first 10 minutes wrecking the experience for all or worse, refuses to leave when identified as the lagger and can't be voted out and the game drags on until they end up desynching.

                                    75% of games end up being a fucking RE for one of these reasons and there doesn't appear to be jack shit being done or able to be done because this community isn't innovating to fix it and we're all told if you wanna fix it, fix it yourself.

                                    Def skill issue.

                                    Meanwhile if this keeps up this will be the last year FAF is around because the playerbase wont grow or stick around.

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                                      FtXCommando
                                      last edited by 16 Feb 2024, 01:21

                                      Play dual gap as a 4v4 and these problems halve themselves or more.

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                                        Defiant
                                        last edited by 16 Feb 2024, 02:51

                                        Is there 3rd party infrastructure or hosting we could use to reduce DDOS?

                                        A web service is not the same as FAF, but maybe the same practice of using a WAF could be used.
                                        Could we pay to host servers on cloudfare or similar?
                                        Could we increase the number of servers to reduce DDOS?
                                        Could we ride on some other network layer which has protections?

                                        Please don't feel anyone should answer these directly, they are more rhetroical, uninformed ideas. My point is if we can solve this by using other available technologies.

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                                          Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin @Defiant
                                          last edited by 16 Feb 2024, 07:56

                                          @defiant said in What is going on with FAF?:

                                          Is there 3rd party infrastructure or hosting we could use to reduce DDOS?

                                          This is what we added when we introduced the "global" coturn.
                                          But it doesn't seem to have the resounding effect we were hoping for.

                                          He said, "I've been to the year 3000
                                          Not much has changed, but they live underwater
                                          And your great-great-great-granddaughter
                                          Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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