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What is going on with FAF?

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    VivalaRUS
    last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 07:04

    For some, a faf server is just a competitor...

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      A Former User
      last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 09:03

      I'd rather move to BAR than one of these servers while I wait for Sanctuary.

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        snoog
        last edited by snoog 17 Jan 2024, 14:29

        I think I'm about ready for a break. Besides playing like absolute dogshit lately, the connection issues returned are just making the game nearly completely unenjoyable once again. I find myself spending more time in lobbys and incomplete games than actually playing these days.

        For your enjoyment, not even sure wtf is happening here:
        https://streamable.com/qr1mg6

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          TankenAbard
          last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 14:49

          I haven't had any issues personally, though I'm in the US playing with others in the US, is this an international problem? I'm not seeing it.

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            Saver
            last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 16:13

            Unfortunately I had problems yesterday. After three tries we stopped it.

            auch mal fünf gerade sein lassen

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              A Former User @TankenAbard
              last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 18:34

              @tankenabard Interesting. I am in Russia, and I have these problems. What if only relays close to Russia are under attack?

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                snoog @Guest
                last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 18:39

                @melanol said in What is going on with FAF?:

                @tankenabard Interesting. I am in Russia, and I have these problems. What if only relays close to Russia are under attack?

                Anecdotal experience, I feel like most of my issues are in games with Russians.

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                  A Former User @snoog
                  last edited by 17 Jan 2024, 21:09

                  @snoog Because they happen to use these relays?

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                    DonDraper
                    last edited by 15 Feb 2024, 05:47

                    Game is fucking unplayable.

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                      Ctrl-K
                      last edited by 15 Feb 2024, 08:39

                      @DonDraper Skill issue.

                      “Be a yardstick of quality. Some people aren’t used to an environment where excellence is expected.”
                      — Steve Jobs.
                      My UI Mods
                      Support me

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                        DonDraper
                        last edited by 15 Feb 2024, 18:05

                        Oh really its a skill issue when

                        1/5 of games lag so bad they end up with drops causing a desynch condition

                        1/4 of games are DOA because someone disconnects on launch...

                        1/2 of games are lagging so bad that someone drops in the first 10 minutes wrecking the experience for all or worse, refuses to leave when identified as the lagger and can't be voted out and the game drags on until they end up desynching.

                        75% of games end up being a fucking RE for one of these reasons and there doesn't appear to be jack shit being done or able to be done because this community isn't innovating to fix it and we're all told if you wanna fix it, fix it yourself.

                        Def skill issue.

                        Meanwhile if this keeps up this will be the last year FAF is around because the playerbase wont grow or stick around.

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                          FtXCommando
                          last edited by 16 Feb 2024, 01:21

                          Play dual gap as a 4v4 and these problems halve themselves or more.

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                            Defiant
                            last edited by 16 Feb 2024, 02:51

                            Is there 3rd party infrastructure or hosting we could use to reduce DDOS?

                            A web service is not the same as FAF, but maybe the same practice of using a WAF could be used.
                            Could we pay to host servers on cloudfare or similar?
                            Could we increase the number of servers to reduce DDOS?
                            Could we ride on some other network layer which has protections?

                            Please don't feel anyone should answer these directly, they are more rhetroical, uninformed ideas. My point is if we can solve this by using other available technologies.

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                              Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin @Defiant
                              last edited by 16 Feb 2024, 07:56

                              @defiant said in What is going on with FAF?:

                              Is there 3rd party infrastructure or hosting we could use to reduce DDOS?

                              This is what we added when we introduced the "global" coturn.
                              But it doesn't seem to have the resounding effect we were hoping for.

                              He said, "I've been to the year 3000
                              Not much has changed, but they live underwater
                              And your great-great-great-granddaughter
                              Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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                                MostLostNoob @Brutus5000
                                last edited by 16 Feb 2024, 18:54

                                @brutus5000 said in What is going on with FAF?:

                                This is what we added when we introduced the "global" coturn.
                                But it doesn't seem to have the resounding effect we were hoping for.

                                Could the issue with the Global Coturn server be that the other Coturn servers (Germany 1, Finland, US East & any others that I just can't see) are still online & selectable in the client, so not everybody is using only the Global Coturn which would result in the evaluation of the performance of using that 3rd party provider solution not being measured accurately?

                                Should all Coturn servers except the Global one be shutdown while the DDOS attacks are still ongoing so that only the Global one with the added protection can be used?

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                                  Sheikah
                                  last edited by Sheikah 16 Feb 2024, 20:03

                                  We did try that for a bit but the bandwidth costs started to explode in unexpected ways so we turned the others back on.

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                                    MostLostNoob
                                    last edited by MostLostNoob 16 Feb 2024, 20:27

                                    😞

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                                      DonDraper
                                      last edited by 17 Feb 2024, 08:41

                                      CALL THE FBI AND REPORT THE DDOS. GET SOME FUCKING HELP FROM MICROSOFT. DO FUCKING SOMETHING!

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                                        Supernova16 @DonDraper
                                        last edited by 17 Feb 2024, 09:06

                                        @dondraper My man, it looks like they are doings things, it just hasn't worked out quite like they wanted it to.

                                        What exactly do you expect the FBI or Microsoft to do for DDoS attacks against a game like this? I love FAF, but it's not like its critical infrastructure. I'm sure they're doing their best with the tools and resources at their disposal.

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                                          Reckless_Charger
                                          last edited by Reckless_Charger 17 Feb 2024, 10:01

                                          Umm I'm sure FBI has better things to do than combating DDOS attacks on ancient multiplayer game (played by a couple of thousand people at best) based in foreign (non-US) country being attacked by actors likely from another foreign country.

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