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    Add the Tombstones from the 2025 April Fool's Update as a Permanent Feature

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    • N Offline
      Nuggets FAF Association Board @KnownSniper
      last edited by

      @TheWeakie said in Add the Tombstones from the 2025 April Fool's Update as a Permanent Feature:

      It could be added as a ranked sim mod

      Its an idea but some people will filter out games with sim mods and others just ignore games when sim mods are enabled (especially as there is no way to see if a game is ranked or not - they will just assume its not).
      Lobby option would be the best imo

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      • BlackYpsB Offline
        BlackYps
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        Could the people that want it as an option (I read that as "yes, but not in my games") please state why? This helps for a productive discussion to better understand what the controversial parts of the feature are

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        • E33144211332424E Offline
          E33144211332424
          last edited by E33144211332424

          It simply doesn't match the vibe of the game, as such it shouldn't be the default option. Still, should be a way to use it in custom lobbies if one wishes so without de-ranking the game.

          Otherwise imagine you buy the game and you see this random ass wacky tombstones the moment someone dies. Ain't what you signed up for boss.

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          • RazanaR Offline
            Razana @Deribus
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            @Deribus

            For me, my preferred lines are the ones that explicitly state who the killer was, regardless of how the death occured. But the sillier ones aren't a dealbreaker for me.

            --

            There is definitely an aesthetic mismatch with the tombstones as-is. Although there are potential workarounds also being discussed in this thread.

            If anyone else would want to chime in on why they think this should or should not be implemented. This is your chance, especially if its a point that hasn't been brought up yet.

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            • S Offline
              Sainse Balance Team
              last edited by Sainse

              The problem with tombstones was that they’re not reclaimable despite the game having the ACU wreck model by default

              I don’t want them in the game but if I was to add them it would be mod of having acu wreck in the game

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              • S Offline
                Sainse Balance Team @IndexLibrorum
                last edited by Sainse

                @IndexLibrorum said in Add the Tombstones from the 2025 April Fool's Update as a Permanent Feature:

                Does it make sense to have a ACU wreck instead of a stone tombstone? I know the ACU explodes in a big bang but if all my 2000 best faf friends are willing to suspend disbelief on the ACU chasis being able to withstand a nuclear explosion well enough to leave a blackened wreck I won't argue against it. But yes, nice function, let's keep it.

                Lore-wise ACU wreck is the dead Dostya

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                • BlackYpsB Offline
                  BlackYps
                  last edited by

                  Do we even need a wreck? There is a large black crater already. Isn't the utility of the feature the map marker and the message?

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                  • S Offline
                    Set
                    last edited by Set

                    Imo the tombstones are fun and if it's decided to keep them it doesn't bother me but I'd hate this to be overthought/overdone.

                    That old adage comes to mind, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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                    • IndexLibrorumI Offline
                      IndexLibrorum Moderator @BlackYps
                      last edited by IndexLibrorum

                      @BlackYps Figured it would make more sense than an actual tombstone. Can still give it the marker and quote. But I'm good with either, I just quite liked the feature and would love to see it come back.

                      "Design is an iterative process. The required number of iterations is one more than the number you have currently done. This is true at any point in time."

                      See all my projects:

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                      • BlackYpsB Offline
                        BlackYps
                        last edited by BlackYps

                        I'm just trying to understand what exactly people like or dislike about the feature because we have:

                        • the actual tombstones
                        • the marker on the map
                        • the text that informs about who the killer was
                        • the text being funny

                        It's not an all or nothing situation where we have to take or leave the whole package

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                        • DoompantsD Offline
                          Doompants
                          last edited by

                          FWIW, we actually found these tombstones break the PhantomX mod's win conditions. When an ACU pops the rest of their forces don't disappear.

                          Didn't report it because we assumed they were reverting after this week. 🙂

                          Otherwise I don't have a horse in this race, but maybe another reason to make it optional.

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                          • DeribusD Offline
                            Deribus Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Made some quick mockups of faction tombstones. UEF I'm pretty happy with, Aeon might need a few more features, Cybran I think I need to scrap and start over 😂
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                            No ideas for sera yet but it'd probably some weird floaty stuff.

                            Tomorrow I'll try to test the ACU wrecks and get some screenshots of those.

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                            • K Offline
                              Kilatamoro
                              last edited by

                              If gets into main game, bye, immersion.

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                              • waffelzNoobW Offline
                                waffelzNoob
                                last edited by

                                i also think they're a little too "silly" to keep

                                frick snoops!

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                                • C Offline
                                  Caliber
                                  last edited by Caliber

                                  @Deribus

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                                  just some inspiration.

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                                  • JipJ Offline
                                    Jip @Caliber
                                    last edited by

                                    @Caliber said in Add the Tombstones from the 2025 April Fool's Update as a Permanent Feature:

                                    Its just a UI feature so people can choose if they want them or not in an in game setting

                                    This is not a UI feature.

                                    A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                                    • DeribusD Offline
                                      Deribus Moderator @waffelzNoob
                                      last edited by

                                      @waffelzNoob said in Add the Tombstones from the 2025 April Fool's Update as a Permanent Feature:

                                      i also think they're a little too "silly" to keep

                                      To BlackYps point, can you elaborate on what you mean by "they're"?

                                      The current tombstones, my designs, the entire concept? Would you prefer the wrecks avenue?

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                                      • waffelzNoobW Offline
                                        waffelzNoob
                                        last edited by waffelzNoob

                                        tombstones in general.
                                        and wrecks would be cool, but confusing, because you can't reclaim them

                                        honestly reclaimable ACU wrecks doesn't sound so bad because I strongly dislike when players are able to blow up your army with their ACU and their team loses nothing of value. However currently ACUs "cost" a ton of resources so I imagine a wreck would give way too much also

                                        frick snoops!

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                                        • N Offline
                                          Nomander Balance Team @waffelzNoob
                                          last edited by

                                          @waffelzNoob said in Add the Tombstones from the 2025 April Fool's Update as a Permanent Feature:

                                          However currently ACUs "cost" a ton of resources so I imagine a wreck would give way too much also

                                          This is easily adjustable in wreckage parameters. Also ACUs only cost 2000 mass right now, so you could just add wrecks without changing anything.

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                                          • waffelzNoobW Offline
                                            waffelzNoob
                                            last edited by

                                            huge dub

                                            frick snoops!

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