I think it's pretty common to tell new or less skilled players that they are stupid and should uninstall the game rather than help them improve. True teamwork is very hard to find around here. I have played with certain people game after game and winning like crazy and playing solid but when I make one mistake and now we lose one game then all a sudden those same mates who were great during wins are telling me I am an idiot and hating on me because we lose one. Watch any replay and read the chat and more often than not it is people yelling at each other telling each other horrible things....people don't know how to lose as a team....this is the greatest team game ever and most people can't understand that. People don't understand that we are lucky to have such a community and such support....there is no love here....everybody hates everyone.

@biass I have(what I think is an incredible idea) but zero skills or ability to do it nor the time so is there anyone willing to hear my idea and if they like it then they can do it and take the credit, I just want it in game lol

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Since I didn't see someone put their idea I might as well put mine. How about a T3 mobile unit transport? Armored and perhaps stealth and a recon package or shield depending on the faction. Similar to the air transports it can take more lower tier units and less t3 type thing. A great way to extract an ACU in trouble too for the land players. For that matter, it could be amphibious for beachhead assaults with naval fire support. I think you get the idea. I would love to see this whole dynamic in the game and it's pretty common in our universe so it makes sense that FAF universe would have advanced this as well.

@rezy-noob said in TMM matching:

No they don't, there is no way anyone is going to limit someone's access to the game because of a bad cpu, your request is so beyond selfish as well since most maps tend to be low count unit matches

Why take instant offense to things so easy??. My intentions are not selfish even if you interpret them that way for some strange reason. This is a problem that many people are complaining about and I was throwing an idea out there that I think would work. Its not just one single person who has a bad cpu or connection that ruin it for the masses its many people causing the problems because of bad computers and such. I don't see a problem with forcing those people to make custom games that better suit their systems rather than having them ruin TMM matches time and again but If it is not viable then that's fine but getting bitter and accusing me of being selfish is just silly and immature. I'm trying to start a conversation to find a solution, thanks for your constructive input on the matter. It is so helpful!

I am starting to play TMM a lot more these days and am finding a few issues that revolve around the fact that TMM seems to attract a lot of high CPU players and/or people with bad connections because they cant get into custom games

For instance a person who is similar rank as me and plays at the same time has a 450 cpu. He doesn't play custom anymore because he gets kicked from the lobbies so he only plays TMM but every single game I get put in with him is a lagfest from min 1 due to him so we will all call him out in chat and we ask him to leave so we can continue 3v2 or 4v3 but he wont leave so then everyone else does only to rematch with him right after.

Is there a way to limit who is able to play TMM based on their CPU score so that say nobody with a CPU score above 300 or whatever seems right is allowed to join? I feel bad for those that don't have a good enough machine to play this game but they need to start respecting that and play small customs games or 1v1 or something.

I am curious if the same can be done with people with network issues.

For now I have him marked as a foe and just wont join TMM while he is online....maybe preventing matching with foes is a solution too?

Not sure how this all works but wanted to throw the idea out there for those that do.

Thanks

@magge said in TMM matching:

If you encounter someone who is constantly slowing down games or causing network issues, then report them, so we can look into it to find a solution.

You can host your own games with your own CPU rating limit, so you can decide which CPU is good enough for you to play with, same for your friends in team games.

So the solution is to just host a custom game rather than play TMM at all? That's exactly what is happening now and TMM is getting the reputation as a place where laggers and high CPUS go to play. TMM has so much potential and people want to love it but it is ruined by the lack of controls that custom games are able to employ. I am a solo player and don't play with any set group but I often get put on a team with players who are in a group and like I said in the OP one player among the 6-8 player pool has a system that cant handle TMM settings and so everyone has to suffer because that one person is not willing to accept the reality of their situation and make custom lobbies that are better suited to their system.

Hosting your own game isn't so cut and dry either because lobbies don't always fill but there might be 15+ in the TMM ques at that time (and multiple people complaining in chat about the problems with TMM funny enough) The point of TMM in the first place is to be able to just find a quick game without having to host custom lobbies isn't it but its being ruined by a small group of people who cant handle it.

I am not trying to single any one player out because these these people are nice people who just want to play FAF so I never thought to report them and even then how does reporting them fix their 450cpu from 1999? Do the people that keep the FAF ship sailing want a bunch of reports coming in about all this so then you all have that much more work to do sifting through legit and BS reports and then dissecting the technical data on top of that to see what a solution might be when simply limiting TMM to a set CPU score and ping would solve a lot of these problems right off the top and establish a new baseline going forward? I don't sail this ship I just play on it so I don't know the answer there.

I haven't really played FAF since TMM no share was a thing but after trying TMM for the last little bit it didn't take long to notice this glaring problem and notice that many people are saying the same thing about TMM

You cant just take your Toyota Prius onto an race track, most tracks have a minimum spec to what a vehicle must have in order to get on the track. Its just the reality of the situation and like Penguin said if it is technically viable than I think it would be a huge benefit in a number of ways.

t2 gunships work great.

@arma473 why are other websites able to achieve this but we cant? How would one person deleting thier account cause another persons account to be deleted? or whatever unintended deletion you speak of happen?

has FAF transitioned to these new servers yet that we have all been expecting for many months now?...if not then what has been the hold up? If so then why are the same problems still so prevalent?

If the account creation process is automated than why cant the account deletion process also be automated?? I agree people should have the right to have their info deleted in a timely manner regardless of how minor it may seem to some.

I never understood why so many websites allow people to create accounts so easily without any moderator to be involved but when it comes to deleting an account its nearly impossible.

@zeldafanboy High capacity for what reason? If you have to much mass then you need more engines to spend it properly.

build engies rather than storage. Store your mass in the form of units/structures...kind of like buying property/investments to store your money rather than keeping it in the bank.. to me the upgradable storages is where it belongs.....in the mod vault.

@greensubmarine said in Suggestion: remove "t2 to t3 mex rebuild" game mechanics maybe?:

In my opinion it looks like a bug that become feature. Since it exists in FAF for ages and people get used to it i doubt that it will be ever changed. But it is very counterintuitive and may lead to accidental ctrl+k of something valuable like already rebuilt t3 mex or even comm. When i started to play FAF i legit had to make ui mod just to make sure i won't ctrl+k something else

I had problems accidently cntrl+k things I didn't mean to so what I do now when I use this technique (very rarely) is I just use my engies to reclaim the mex then build the t3 so there is no risk to make that mistake.

@angelofd347h said in TMM matching:

The issue lies with how do you define a bad connection? Do you ban all Russians because they sometimes have poor connections to Australians (or vice versa)? Similarly how do you determine a bad cpu?

TMM is supposed to be the place where you can't be kicked for your flag, you can't be kicked for CPU and you can't be kicked for some arbitrary host made decision.

Using the foe system doesn't work because then people are capable of abusing the system by foeing opponents they don't want to fight because they know they'll lose.

I misunderstood the intention behind TMM I guess. I thought it was so that people could find a match somewhat fast and consistent and have multiple games in a relatively quick timeframe so as to make FAF more accessible.

I agree I have no idea how the stuff works under the hood of all this but I do think that TMM needs to be the controlled aspect of FAF whereas custom can be the wide open free for all and nobody should feel bad about it.

Minimum specifications are a very real thing in video games and implementing them in certain cases as a hard rule shouldnt be viewed as negative selfish gatekeeping. With CPU scores it is more cut and dry and feels like a no brainer to me. Anyone in a custom lobby who sees someone with a 300+cpu score know that dude is going to be a problem.

With networking/ping stuff it is way more of a grey area I get that. I live on the west coast of Canada, my condo sits directly above the main fiber line that runs down the western seaboard, I have a 1,5g symmetrical fiber connection with cat8 networking cable as my only copper run from the fiber router (or whatever its called) to my PC but even I can be the one guy who needs to be kicked from a lobby if I am matched with some aussies and russians in certain cases. Usually I have no issues but sometimes I do. I shouldn't be banned from TMM for this because networking can change day to day.

I often play with only aussies because I am night shift here in Canada so my schedule lines up with the other side of the world usually. I will join the same custom lobbies day in and day out with the same core group of players but on a random day for some reason it lags and those are the times I should be filtered out of tmm and matched with players I ping nicely with.

Easy to say I know but I guess my main point is that TMM shouldn't be the free for all it currently is and should be gate kept so its the bets experience possible.

Thanks for all your input everyone, I have reached the limit of what I am able to offer such a topic but glad it can at least be discussed openly, this is how problems are solved.

@magge said in TMM matching:

If you encounter someone who is constantly slowing down games or causing network issues, then report them, so we can look into it to find a solution.

You can host your own games with your own CPU rating limit, so you can decide which CPU is good enough for you to play with, same for your friends in team games.

So the solution is to just host a custom game rather than play TMM at all? That's exactly what is happening now and TMM is getting the reputation as a place where laggers and high CPUS go to play. TMM has so much potential and people want to love it but it is ruined by the lack of controls that custom games are able to employ. I am a solo player and don't play with any set group but I often get put on a team with players who are in a group and like I said in the OP one player among the 6-8 player pool has a system that cant handle TMM settings and so everyone has to suffer because that one person is not willing to accept the reality of their situation and make custom lobbies that are better suited to their system.

Hosting your own game isn't so cut and dry either because lobbies don't always fill but there might be 15+ in the TMM ques at that time (and multiple people complaining in chat about the problems with TMM funny enough) The point of TMM in the first place is to be able to just find a quick game without having to host custom lobbies isn't it but its being ruined by a small group of people who cant handle it.

I am not trying to single any one player out because these these people are nice people who just want to play FAF so I never thought to report them and even then how does reporting them fix their 450cpu from 1999? Do the people that keep the FAF ship sailing want a bunch of reports coming in about all this so then you all have that much more work to do sifting through legit and BS reports and then dissecting the technical data on top of that to see what a solution might be when simply limiting TMM to a set CPU score and ping would solve a lot of these problems right off the top and establish a new baseline going forward? I don't sail this ship I just play on it so I don't know the answer there.

I haven't really played FAF since TMM no share was a thing but after trying TMM for the last little bit it didn't take long to notice this glaring problem and notice that many people are saying the same thing about TMM

You cant just take your Toyota Prius onto an race track, most tracks have a minimum spec to what a vehicle must have in order to get on the track. Its just the reality of the situation and like Penguin said if it is technically viable than I think it would be a huge benefit in a number of ways.