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    Add the Tombstones from the 2025 April Fool's Update as a Permanent Feature

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    • S Offline
      Sainse Balance Team @IndexLibrorum
      last edited by Sainse

      @IndexLibrorum said in Add the Tombstones from the 2025 April Fool's Update as a Permanent Feature:

      Does it make sense to have a ACU wreck instead of a stone tombstone? I know the ACU explodes in a big bang but if all my 2000 best faf friends are willing to suspend disbelief on the ACU chasis being able to withstand a nuclear explosion well enough to leave a blackened wreck I won't argue against it. But yes, nice function, let's keep it.

      Lore-wise ACU wreck is the dead Dostya

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      • BlackYpsB Offline
        BlackYps
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        Do we even need a wreck? There is a large black crater already. Isn't the utility of the feature the map marker and the message?

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          Set
          last edited by Set

          Imo the tombstones are fun and if it's decided to keep them it doesn't bother me but I'd hate this to be overthought/overdone.

          That old adage comes to mind, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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          • IndexLibrorumI Offline
            IndexLibrorum Moderator @BlackYps
            last edited by IndexLibrorum

            @BlackYps Figured it would make more sense than an actual tombstone. Can still give it the marker and quote. But I'm good with either, I just quite liked the feature and would love to see it come back.

            "Design is an iterative process. The required number of iterations is one more than the number you have currently done. This is true at any point in time."

            See all my projects:

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            • BlackYpsB Offline
              BlackYps
              last edited by BlackYps

              I'm just trying to understand what exactly people like or dislike about the feature because we have:

              • the actual tombstones
              • the marker on the map
              • the text that informs about who the killer was
              • the text being funny

              It's not an all or nothing situation where we have to take or leave the whole package

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              • DoompantsD Offline
                Doompants
                last edited by

                FWIW, we actually found these tombstones break the PhantomX mod's win conditions. When an ACU pops the rest of their forces don't disappear.

                Didn't report it because we assumed they were reverting after this week. 🙂

                Otherwise I don't have a horse in this race, but maybe another reason to make it optional.

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                • DeribusD Offline
                  Deribus Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Made some quick mockups of faction tombstones. UEF I'm pretty happy with, Aeon might need a few more features, Cybran I think I need to scrap and start over 😂
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                  No ideas for sera yet but it'd probably some weird floaty stuff.

                  Tomorrow I'll try to test the ACU wrecks and get some screenshots of those.

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                  • K Offline
                    Kilatamoro
                    last edited by

                    If gets into main game, bye, immersion.

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                    • waffelzNoobW Offline
                      waffelzNoob
                      last edited by

                      i also think they're a little too "silly" to keep

                      frick snoops!

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                        Caliber
                        last edited by Caliber

                        @Deribus

                        tshgets.png

                        just some inspiration.

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                        • JipJ Offline
                          Jip @Caliber
                          last edited by

                          @Caliber said in Add the Tombstones from the 2025 April Fool's Update as a Permanent Feature:

                          Its just a UI feature so people can choose if they want them or not in an in game setting

                          This is not a UI feature.

                          A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                          • DeribusD Offline
                            Deribus Moderator @waffelzNoob
                            last edited by

                            @waffelzNoob said in Add the Tombstones from the 2025 April Fool's Update as a Permanent Feature:

                            i also think they're a little too "silly" to keep

                            To BlackYps point, can you elaborate on what you mean by "they're"?

                            The current tombstones, my designs, the entire concept? Would you prefer the wrecks avenue?

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                            • waffelzNoobW Offline
                              waffelzNoob
                              last edited by waffelzNoob

                              tombstones in general.
                              and wrecks would be cool, but confusing, because you can't reclaim them

                              honestly reclaimable ACU wrecks doesn't sound so bad because I strongly dislike when players are able to blow up your army with their ACU and their team loses nothing of value. However currently ACUs "cost" a ton of resources so I imagine a wreck would give way too much also

                              frick snoops!

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                              • N Offline
                                Nomander Balance Team @waffelzNoob
                                last edited by

                                @waffelzNoob said in Add the Tombstones from the 2025 April Fool's Update as a Permanent Feature:

                                However currently ACUs "cost" a ton of resources so I imagine a wreck would give way too much also

                                This is easily adjustable in wreckage parameters. Also ACUs only cost 2000 mass right now, so you could just add wrecks without changing anything.

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                                • waffelzNoobW Offline
                                  waffelzNoob
                                  last edited by

                                  huge dub

                                  frick snoops!

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                                  • N Offline
                                    Nuggets FAF Association Board
                                    last edited by Nuggets

                                    The best part of the feature was the "funny" text of the tombstone. So idc what the wreck or tombstone looks like.
                                    Would be sad if this just goes

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                                    • N Offline
                                      Nomander Balance Team
                                      last edited by

                                      What if they were death markers? UI modders can mod the text and casters/players can use it to see who died and how, with restrictions as needed for players (allies only at minimum). They would be created in a similar fashion to Notify messages.
                                      This would have no sim changes like wrecks or other objects, thus keeping the immersion somewhat intact (UI is immersion-breaking in general, but this is less so than objects in the world).

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                                      • N Offline
                                        Nuggets FAF Association Board
                                        last edited by

                                        I'd probably not have the feature like that. Would prefer a wreck / tombstone over just a message

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                                        • DeribusD Offline
                                          Deribus Moderator @Deribus
                                          last edited by

                                          Thought I'd pick this up again
                                          UEF is the same, just added some placeholder textures d17b0658-31f5-49a7-af20-abb53de29d03-image.png
                                          Aeon added a little plinth c19dc8a9-25bd-4020-a425-d5cd8c9b1f2c-image.png
                                          Cybran V2. The dark-red inner area is intended to be a red circuit board type material but that is a lot of work to create such a texture for an idea I'm not committed to yet. 466db2a8-355c-41d0-accb-5e761080ca02-image.png

                                          Sera I'm still figuring out designs for.

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                                          • N Offline
                                            Nuggets FAF Association Board
                                            last edited by

                                            Sera would probably have something that hovers

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