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Idea for Kamikaze units in FAF

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    Jip @RRedMage
    last edited by 21 Jul 2023, 18:05

    @rredmage said in Idea for Kamikaze units in FAF:

    for example I propose for Aeon a T2 plane with name "Resurrection"

    You're describing the Mercy, which just got its role changed 🙂

    @NaN there are mods with land mines, BrewLan certainly has them

    A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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      MazorNoob
      last edited by 21 Jul 2023, 21:10

      I think this post is bait. And given that nobody uses beetles since they have an incredibly niche role they aren't even reliably great at, it's not even good bait.

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        IndexLibrorum Global Moderator @MazorNoob
        last edited by 21 Jul 2023, 21:13

        @mazornoob Wish beetles were better at what they're supposed to do 😞

        "Design is an iterative process. The required number of iterations is one more than the number you have currently done. This is true at any point in time."

        See all my projects:

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          BlackJaguar
          last edited by 21 Jul 2023, 22:19

          All T1 scouts with a change switch for kamikaze drones, like today wars...

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            Zeldafanboy @RRedMage
            last edited by 21 Jul 2023, 22:54

            @rredmage said in Idea for Kamikaze units in FAF:

            for example I propose for Aeon a T2 plane with name "Resurrection"
            with

            • ~300 mass cost, 6k energy cost , buildpower requirement of around 2k
            • vision around 15
            • speed 10
            • 3min fuel
            • 2400 damage single non-missable kamikaze attack

            Yeah I agree this unit should be in the game, but I don’t like the name Resurrection, how about Schmercy or Blurcey

            put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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              TheVVheelboy
              last edited by 21 Jul 2023, 23:19

              Aeon apologists try to not cry after getting fully deserved nerfs challenge (impossible)

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                Zeldafanboy @TheVVheelboy
                last edited by 21 Jul 2023, 23:24

                @xiaomao

                I’ve played exactly 2 games as Aeon in my entire 8~ year span of playing this game, I just don’t hate fun

                put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                  TheVVheelboy
                  last edited by TheVVheelboy 21 Jul 2023, 23:30

                  Aeon apologists try not to justify toxic game design challenge (impossible)

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                    DrPatrickStar
                    last edited by 22 Jul 2023, 18:46

                    But you risk UEF players no longer being able to simply right click into the enemy base. What do you expect them to do, actually scout, preemptively destroy the kamikaze units, build some t1 maa? Madness.

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                      FtXCommando
                      last edited by 23 Jul 2023, 00:34

                      This dude has no idea uef t2 navy requires completely perfect intel to not autolose

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                        TheVVheelboy @DrPatrickStar
                        last edited by 23 Jul 2023, 03:55

                        @drpatrickstar
                        Imagine thinking that t1 or t2 maa will reliably stop Mercies lmao.
                        Yeah, let me move my MAA in front of the acu so that they can actually try stopping the mercies. WAIT WHERE IS MY MAA?

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                          TankenAbard @TheVVheelboy
                          last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 12:50

                          @xiaomao said in Idea for Kamikaze units in FAF:

                          @drpatrickstar
                          Imagine thinking that t1 or t2 maa will reliably stop Mercies lmao.
                          Yeah, let me move my MAA in front of the acu so that they can actually try stopping the mercies. WAIT WHERE IS MY MAA?

                          I, too, enjoy the Mercy changes.

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                            DrPatrickStar @TheVVheelboy
                            last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 13:23

                            @xiaomao

                            if your opponent gets enough unscouted mercies to kill you, you deserve to lose.

                            If you scout them and don't sacrifice a few inties to kill them, you deserve to lose.

                            If you can't do this and still walk your acu in a way that it can get snipe, you deserve to lose.

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                              TheVVheelboy
                              last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 13:40

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                              Tell me more.

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                                Tryth @DrPatrickStar
                                last edited by 24 Jul 2023, 13:47

                                @drpatrickstar

                                This type of logic is why we need instructions on shampoo.

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                                  phong @DrPatrickStar
                                  last edited by phong 24 Jul 2023, 16:18

                                  @drpatrickstar i am happier with all T2 snipes providing more or less the same wiggle room to the victim, and mercies were way more punishing than T2 gunships or bombers because of the alpha damage. No chance to move under shields, no chance to get close to flak, no chance to bring inties to help, just scout (every aeon, not just your opponent), cower away from the front, or die randomly.

                                  Aeon gunships can do almost the same thing but it feels more fair losing to them.

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                                    Loom-
                                    last edited by 25 Jul 2023, 13:12

                                    why is there still no option to downvote things

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                                      Tryth @Loom-
                                      last edited by 25 Jul 2023, 13:12

                                      @boomnoob

                                      Bec people will get bullied worse than what’s already happening

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                                        TheVVheelboy
                                        last edited by 25 Jul 2023, 13:16

                                        Would they? I would just downvote and move on.
                                        But now you need to actually write something to show you disagree.

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                                          RRedMage
                                          last edited by 25 Jul 2023, 22:16

                                          @phong
                                          I see your point, it makes sense. Although I can hardly say that T2 UEF air is capable of "sniping" rather than "steady tickling to death".

                                          For me it always was an intentional difference between races:

                                          • UEF has only damage over time
                                          • Aeon has only alpha damage
                                          • Cybran and Seraph are in the middle
                                            (talking aboun air to ground damage here but Aeon is about alpha damage in many different places)

                                          Now Aeon air seems to be very strange:
                                          Mercy is a one-use Janus and Specters cost more than Stingers, have twice less dps but in alpha-damage form (aka extremely bad).

                                          I don't say I know what to do with Mercy so they become useful but balanced, but seems like this direction just makes them obsolete.

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