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    A Former User @biass
    last edited by A Former User 17 Oct 2021, 06:36

    @biass
    Умеешь писать по-русски? xD

    Player from Russia writes to player from USA: дай инжа. Smart? USA player's reaction?

    And, ofcourse, not all Russian players are like that, but those concrete cases form the negative attitude towards Russian players in general.

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      Resistance
      last edited by 17 Oct 2021, 11:09

      there're always toxic and brilliant people all around,doesn't matter if he's russian or not lol and ofc you're gonna get a russian mark with 11/12 russian players,not sure why is it a problem and not sure why is speaking russian toxic?

      queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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        PerciThundercock
        last edited by 17 Oct 2021, 11:30

        He is right. But really, you can't do anything with that. Many russians now has very nationalists opinions and has near-zero tolerance to another languages, mix this with lack of education and you got what you have.
        You can complain about it, but you cant fix it without completly ban russia.

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          Jip
          last edited by 17 Oct 2021, 11:53

          Maybe instead of trying to get them to adjust to our values, you can try and dive into theirs. I'm sure the majority of all of us are just messing around but due to a language barrier and a preconception of a situation one can quickly draw the wrong conclusions.

          A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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            Valki @Jip
            last edited by Valki 17 Oct 2021, 12:24

            @jip Hearthstone solved that with 6 standard messages, especially if it is just text it shouldn't be to hard to develop, write and mod in.

            1. List the required messages. (Example: Prepare to attack soon, Scale up Eco & Tech, I take your lead, Follow my instructions, No / you idiot, Yes / good idea - to be accompanied with pings and general understanding)
            2. Get nationals to write it in every language.
            3. Mod in under hot menu

            Tbh I might use this sometimes even without a language barrier...

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              Jip
              last edited by 17 Oct 2021, 13:04

              I'm all in for such a feature - we just need to figure out what we want to type.

              A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                Giebmasse Team Lead
                last edited by 17 Oct 2021, 13:07

                Sounds like something you have e.g. in Killing Floor games and maaany other FPS/Co-op type of games behind a button, opens up some communication menu with default messages categorized.

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                  HLPstpBROimSTUCK @Valki
                  last edited by HLPstpBROimSTUCK 17 Oct 2021, 13:54

                  @valki said in Why would you have left FAF?:

                  @jip Hearthstone solved that with 6 standard messages, especially if it is just text it shouldn't be to hard to develop, write and mod in.

                  1. List the required messages. (Example: Prepare to attack soon, Scale up Eco & Tech, I take your lead, Follow my instructions, No / you idiot, Yes / good idea - to be accompanied with pings and general understanding)
                  2. Get nationals to write it in every language.
                  3. Mod in under hot menu

                  Tbh I might use this sometimes even without a language barrier...

                  Same shit in dota, chat-wheel has like 10 translated commands and its enought for a game. Somethling like attack/fallback/don't go here/look. Basically same as 3 existing pings but more different texts

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                    Jip
                    last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 09:02

                    If someone can open up a different topic and discuss what type of messages they'd like to have, then I'll think about a way to implement it intuitively.

                    A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                      Valki @Jip
                      last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 09:43

                      @jip said in Why would you have left FAF?:

                      If someone can open up a different topic and discuss what type of messages they'd like to have, then I'll think about a way to implement it intuitively.

                      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2738/overcome-language-barriers-with-a-chat-wheel-with-standard-messages

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                        wikingest
                        last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 10:24

                        Ctrl+click on "small guy" icon on scoreboard asks for engi already. The same with asking power and mass. Shift+click gives unit, or in case of power/mass, gives 25%.

                        Most of on screen messages I have seen are easy to understand/universel: ACU, nuke, antinuke, mavor, tml, eco, yellow ping for assist, blue for move and red for attack... People use multiple pings for more precision: Blue ping on unit (group) you want to be moved, followed by blue ping in place you want it to be moved to.

                        Official FAF language is english. I am not native english speaker, but as most players I respect to use of english ingame. Even when there are players from my nationality ingame, I speak english. As almost all other players (ecxept russians somtimes). And I dont use my langauage to make worst teams for other nationalitys. Or to bully them. Or to insult them.

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                          A Former User @wikingest
                          last edited by A Former User 18 Oct 2021, 19:19

                          @wikingest said in Why would you have left FAF?:

                          Ctrl+click on "small guy" icon on scoreboard asks for engi already. The same with asking power and mass. Shift+click gives unit, or in case of power/mass, gives 25%.

                          I did not know that! This is so counter-intuitive, imagine a noob figuring this out on his own.

                          Other case, if information like this was added to the loading screen tips.

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                            deletethis @A Former User
                            last edited by 19 Oct 2021, 14:04

                            @fiercelv I don't disagree, but if you happen to hover on the icons, it will tell you.

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                              Valki
                              last edited by Valki 1 Jun 2022, 19:50 6 Jan 2022, 19:49

                              Inverted response... why I don't leave FAF now that Age of Empires 4 is out.

                              I like Age of Empires 4 more overall, the resource gathering is less punishing and seeing that I am behind or understanding why I lost is much more intuitive.

                              I'm still here though because:

                              1. We consider FAF suitable for young kids watching unlike AoE4 (melee combat, people dying), So between 0700 and 2000 FAF is only RTS I play.
                              2. Ladder 1v1 game length is more reliable and shorter than AoE4. Also I can force an ending to the game without just throwing it with an all-in snipe.
                              3. I can't leave before I can play 10 games in a row without ruining my own game through power stall or whatever...
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                                kdrafa91
                                last edited by 6 Jan 2022, 23:48

                                Im 32 years old and i´ve discoreved FAF last year
                                I´ve been playing strategy games all my life, shogun total war, civ2/3/4/5/6, red alert a (bunch of them), age of empires 2/3, knights of honor, rome total war (and a bunch of total wars), dungeon keeper, empire earth, rise of nations, europa universalis 1/2/3/4 etc. etc. and when i found this game is was dumbstruck this is the best game ever and who disagrees with me can fight me 1v1 in real life. 😃

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                                  Cave_Dog
                                  last edited by 8 Jan 2022, 04:46

                                  New player here, I love RTS games but never get into online play because I'm not very good and get destroyed instantly, I at least like to stretch my legs before getting steam rolled. The FAF client is amazing though for mods and maps and letting me set up custom games against AI with all the new balance changes and what not. AAAAND I just realized this is a year old thread ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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                                    ThomasHiatt
                                    last edited by 8 Jan 2022, 17:10

                                    Keep the thread going forever

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                                      H-master @Cave_Dog
                                      last edited by 11 Jan 2022, 16:19

                                      @aaronmorgan1989 said in Why would you have left FAF?:

                                      New player here, I love RTS games but never get into online play because I'm not very good and get destroyed instantly, I at least like to stretch my legs before getting steam rolled. The FAF client is amazing though for mods and maps and letting me set up custom games against AI with all the new balance changes and what not. AAAAND I just realized this is a year old thread ¯_(ツ)_/¯

                                      The campaigns are a good warm up to online play. You'll get a feel of the units. From there on try beating hard ai's and watch some casts. This should be enough to not get stomped in low rated online games. And then just play and improve. I wouldn't play gap though, as it's not representative of maps where you can't turtle.

                                      Check out my maps here:

                                      Madness 1 - 10

                                      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/480/h-master-s-maps

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                                        Sonofibis
                                        last edited by 7 Aug 2023, 12:51

                                        Been playing for 3 years now. Dropped off for a bit...... Boy this game is ruthless if that muscle memory slips.

                                        The 3v3s are amazing and have been the best addition since i have started. I wouldn't be on as much if it wasn't for the quick games i get from it.

                                        Theres nothing else like faf! Pls stop balancing too! the latest aeon navy balance.. feels bad. If you come back and all of a sudden units are to different its confusing and frustrating

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                                          vena20202O
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