Great work guys. I hope a lot of underplayed maps get more played this way.

Atlantis being able to build air units while moving, would make it more useful.

I know it's an engine limitation, but a workaround exists.

Also, why not make it's torpedo's do much more damage? Than it could do something for it's price.

ICE has been amazing. Multiplayer is way more stable than a couple of years ago.

The carrier will forgot its build que when it gets a move command.
There is a mod that has a workaround. I sugested to implement it in the game, but it didn't receive positive feedback.

Maybe not play gap?? And help making it less popular by hosting/joining other lobbies. Like generated maps, tmm or even a nice Madness map

@arma473 said in I cri everytim:

Trying to control how other people play a game by shaming them as inferior, by telling them that the time and effort they invest into playing is less valuable than the time that you put in, telling them that their skills are crap compared to your skills, is not very nice and not at all helpful.

Yes, I agree that we should treat each other with respect of course.

An analogy came to mind. Let's say FAF is like football (soccer). With the original game, you are allowed to run. With turtle maps, you are only allowed to walk.
The people who run during the game, say hey this game is way more fun when you are allowed to run. There are many more possibilities. It's a shame everyone is walking and we have trouble getting enough people for the games where people are allowed to run.
Maybe the analogy sucks, but that's for me at least the sentiment, I am having with this situation.

@pryanichek said in I cri everytim:

The problem starts with new players
I myself have recently started playing Faf (a little less than a year)
Until you have 100 games it is impossible to get on any map except dual gaps or astro crater, you will be kicked from the lobby

Did you try going through the campaign first? When I first got the game in 2007 I played through all three campaigns before going to multiplayer. That gave a great feel to the units and the game mechanics.
Now it's even better since you can play the campaign with the multiplayer balance modifications in place.

@tatsu said in I cri everytim:

I know it's a recurring topic and that we don't really know what to do there but it does kinda suck that the more time passes the more FAF simply becomes DualGap.

like the DualGap desktop client.

for some that's ok. For others (me), there's a wealth of riches being smothered out there.

where's all the Phantoms? the Nomads? the King of The Hill? The Zone Control? the Crazy Rush? the Risk Map? the Protect the Objective? the Waves of Death? the Survival?

Heck just old classics like Pizza, Badlands and open palms? or those newer and better maps made by mappers? Anchor? Rainmakers? Kaali?

Heck where did that auto-mapgen host go? that was a super good idea.

Yes I completely agree, there are so many good maps in the Vault and on top of that there is the map generator for endless variety.

To me, it's a shame that the vast majority of games being hosted are on a map that promotes turtle play and leaves out a lot of the good part of the normal Supreme Commander gameplay. Like being able to loose your main income and being able to take it from your opponent.
If everything is protected behind a mountain, it always makes sense to tech up as soon as possible and the game turns into a, in my opinion, very boring eco race. Dual Gap is in that regard a bit better than other maps we've seen in the past, but it still leaves a lot to be desired.

Of course, people have to decide for themself what they do with their free time, but I can imagine the popularity of the map having an impact on the community. As in, it sucks all the (new) players in, making it harder to play anything else. Both for players who want to play gap, and who don't want to.

Hopefully, the TMM 3v3 and 4v4 will be a big hit.

@Intel_Wins_Games, yes of course we host different games but it would be a lot nicer if these filled as fast as dual gap. Not at every point in life there is enough time for lobby sim.

@tagada said in Why would you have left FAF?:

Just play in the upcoming TMM, the player experience for newer players (no games, getting kicked due to low game number/grey rating, etc.) was the driving factor for devs to implement the TMM and it aims to solve those issues.

Any news on a release date?

The idea behind Aeon is to have units that excel at their role. Only one task, as opposed to jack of all trades units.

So when it works, it works really well. But when it doesn't, it sucks a lot.

@arma473 said in Need UI Mod? Let me know:

@h-master The only useful thing I've found for the second screen is to treat it as a giant mini-map and I glance at it sometimes when I want to be aware of the map, like if I'm zoomed in to micro something, I might look at the second monitor. Maybe 0.1% of the time that I'm playing I'm looking at the second monitor.

One of the things web browsers used to have (maybe they still do) were "widgets." It was like a generic interface that anyone could use to make little things to put on the screen that would do stuff like tell you the weather or be a calculator. If someone made a "widget" interface for FAF, it would be easier to create little apps you could put onto a second monitor that could give the kind of info H-master is talking about.

The "UI-Party" mod I use has info about things like the number of mexes (not just T1, T2, T3, but the number that are upgrading or paused-upgrading). But it would be pretty cool if we could widgetize that information and then click and drag to move the "widgets" around. Then people could decide what info they wanted to have access to and where they wanted to put it on their screen. Or even multiple "tabs" and you could put different widgets on different tabs, so I could open an "energy management" thing that would give info about my energy use. Or something about mass utilization so I could see what % of my mass is going into land units, air units, navy, making economy buildings like pgens or upgrading mexes, loading TML/SML/SMD, etc.

Then people with potato PCs could REAAAALLY lag seton's even more effectively than they already do.

Sorry, for the late reply. This is exactly what I mean. The second screen isn't really that handy because there is strategic zoom. With the widgets it could become useful.

@hinthunter said in Need UI Mod? Let me know:

@h-master Check out "Supreme Economy" sir.

Thanks! Will check it out.

@arma473 said in I cri everytim:

Trying to control how other people play a game by shaming them as inferior, by telling them that the time and effort they invest into playing is less valuable than the time that you put in, telling them that their skills are crap compared to your skills, is not very nice and not at all helpful.

Yes, I agree that we should treat each other with respect of course.

An analogy came to mind. Let's say FAF is like football (soccer). With the original game, you are allowed to run. With turtle maps, you are only allowed to walk.
The people who run during the game, say hey this game is way more fun when you are allowed to run. There are many more possibilities. It's a shame everyone is walking and we have trouble getting enough people for the games where people are allowed to run.
Maybe the analogy sucks, but that's for me at least the sentiment, I am having with this situation.

@pryanichek said in I cri everytim:

The problem starts with new players
I myself have recently started playing Faf (a little less than a year)
Until you have 100 games it is impossible to get on any map except dual gaps or astro crater, you will be kicked from the lobby

Did you try going through the campaign first? When I first got the game in 2007 I played through all three campaigns before going to multiplayer. That gave a great feel to the units and the game mechanics.
Now it's even better since you can play the campaign with the multiplayer balance modifications in place.

@tatsu said in I cri everytim:

I know it's a recurring topic and that we don't really know what to do there but it does kinda suck that the more time passes the more FAF simply becomes DualGap.

like the DualGap desktop client.

for some that's ok. For others (me), there's a wealth of riches being smothered out there.

where's all the Phantoms? the Nomads? the King of The Hill? The Zone Control? the Crazy Rush? the Risk Map? the Protect the Objective? the Waves of Death? the Survival?

Heck just old classics like Pizza, Badlands and open palms? or those newer and better maps made by mappers? Anchor? Rainmakers? Kaali?

Heck where did that auto-mapgen host go? that was a super good idea.

Yes I completely agree, there are so many good maps in the Vault and on top of that there is the map generator for endless variety.

To me, it's a shame that the vast majority of games being hosted are on a map that promotes turtle play and leaves out a lot of the good part of the normal Supreme Commander gameplay. Like being able to loose your main income and being able to take it from your opponent.
If everything is protected behind a mountain, it always makes sense to tech up as soon as possible and the game turns into a, in my opinion, very boring eco race. Dual Gap is in that regard a bit better than other maps we've seen in the past, but it still leaves a lot to be desired.

Of course, people have to decide for themself what they do with their free time, but I can imagine the popularity of the map having an impact on the community. As in, it sucks all the (new) players in, making it harder to play anything else. Both for players who want to play gap, and who don't want to.

Hopefully, the TMM 3v3 and 4v4 will be a big hit.

@Intel_Wins_Games, yes of course we host different games but it would be a lot nicer if these filled as fast as dual gap. Not at every point in life there is enough time for lobby sim.

Just a weird idea. But what about percentage share.

When a player dies his team gets a % of the units still on the field. For example 75% stay alive, 25% die.

That way killing an opponent player does hurt the enemy team economically as well in full share.

What exactly will die is something to think about. As well as what to do with the wrecks.

Just a random idea.

I agree, I would like the reclaiming proces to be much easier. SupCom always had the philosophy to take simple tasks outside your hand so you can focus on the big decisions.

What I would like to see is to give the engineer 3 buttons.

1. Reclaim area, focussing on getting as much mass in as is possible
2. Reclaim area, and make the income as steady as possible
3. Reclaim area, focus first on small mass spots and safe the big mass spots for later.

Where is Phong? Everytime I am online he is hosting one of his map gen lobbies.