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    • maudlin27M Offline
      maudlin27
      last edited by

      Given there's someone clearly motivated to seeing FAF fail presumably at cost to themselves (the ongoing DDOS attacks), I don't believe the proposition that that FAF could get away with breaching the law because no-one will care.

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      • LunyshkoL Offline
        Lunyshko @maudlin27
        last edited by

        @maudlin27 Explain how is it a breach of law? Any law that states that you can't send money to turbo2? This is the presumption of guilty not of the innocence

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        • FtXCommandoF Offline
          FtXCommando
          last edited by FtXCommando

          I’m not saying FAF should work to breach the law, my solution was still to reserve the funds while providing in kind services as options for people that don’t feel like waiting.

          Though I also feel like the “waiting” isn’t really a necessary condition and the transfer of FAF money for a service should be viable for anyone that wins FAF money.

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          • IndexLibrorumI Offline
            IndexLibrorum Global Moderator @Lunyshko
            last edited by IndexLibrorum

            @lunyshko It's been made clear in previous iterations of this discussion that several people were intending to forward the money to Russian members who otherwise would not be able to receive prize money.

            You can argue that such actions fall beyond what the board should be concerned about, but the worry remains that FAF remained possibly liable for such actions nonetheless. Legal advise was sought, but no definitive answer obtained. As such, the board has chosen to err on the side of caution, as it is most important to not jeopardize the FAF project, even if this meant that a handful of Russian players were unable to receive any financial prizes. I'm sure you'll be able to understand that the (perceived) risk involved here does not outweigh the rewards (pun not intended).

            This sucks for those players and it's not their fault, but such are the consequences of living in a warmongering state.

            Again, all of this has previously been discussed to death, and the conclusions that were reached by the board are unlikely to change. It's time to stop this discussion, if only so that we can return to the issue at hand:

            We were discussing on how to deal with avatars, both in the global sense of needing proper guidelines to handle future assignments, as well as the specific sense of how to deal with the custom avatar given out by NOC as a replacement for the tournament prize.

            There are efforts made to work out a good set of guidelines, mostly based on the earlier framework by FTX and some current revisions by Fichom. Further input on this is very welcome, please see the relevant discord channel.

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            • S Offline
              snoog
              last edited by

              Yes, lets risk the entire FAF project for a few measly bucks. Great idea lads.

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              • FtXCommandoF Offline
                FtXCommando @BlackYps
                last edited by FtXCommando

                @blackyps said in Personal/Custom Avatars:

                @ftxcommando said in Personal/Custom Avatars:

                the situation above is arbitrary and shouldn’t have happened. Because it’s really just NOC deciding based on his personal vibes that day what is worth a personal avatar.

                That's a pretty good description of what happened.

                There is a thread in the promo-public channel on discord now that discusses avatar rules. All input is welcome.

                I don’t think so. I put equivalent if not more fault on the Board for making a terrible ruling to save themselves a little bit of duress which in turn put NOC in a totally losing situation where he tried to give some sort of compensation. Only problem on NOC’s end was not working out the details.

                Little bit of a false dichotomy going on with this “net good vs net evil” when the whole situation exists because a ledger of reserved, illiquid funds is too much work for those few players. It’s really more like the needs of those few players isn’t worth a single hour a week of time of like 1 of 7 different Board members, which is a big deal for NOC’s position.

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                • arma473A Offline
                  arma473
                  last edited by

                  The total unpaid tournament winnings are $150 to ZLO, $75 to Espi and Lunyshko, $30 to Robogear? Or who else did not get money?

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                  • waffelzNoobW Offline
                    waffelzNoob
                    last edited by

                    malding so hard rn, i want pixels next to my name too

                    frick snoops!

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                    • DeribusD Offline
                      Deribus Global Moderator
                      last edited by

                      With the help of Spikey I have compiled a table of all 201 current avatars. The categories are my personal best guess and aren't meant to be taken as fact, since they aren't formally categorized in any way.

                      Post cut in half because of character limit

                      Tournament Contributor Personal Other
                      1 TMM Gold Champion 1 FAF Donator Looking Down ACU sniper
                      2 TMM Gold Champion 2 Moderator Pizza ! Seraphim
                      3 TMM Silver Champion 1 I'm a FAF caster Sin.. Cybran
                      4 TMM Silver Champion 2 Mod Author Grrrrr ! Aeon
                      5 IMBA Cup Champion Map Author Voodoo personal avatar UEF
                      6 IMBA Cup Finalist Tournament Director Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Unive Brackman
                      7 King of Open Palms Galactic War Donator The Boot Cool Princess
                      8 Prince Of Open Palms Personal Trainer Masters Of The Universe Liberate !
                      9 Tournament winner Theme Creator I'm watching you! Cleanse !
                      10 King of Seraphim FAF Wiki Editor The Voice of Reason Unite !
                      11 Blitz Champion I'm a FAF streamer Fluffy Tails Destroy !
                      12 2vs2 Tournament Champion Stack Wizard speed2's avatar Strategic Genius
                      13 King of UEF Trainer Team Lead LTT Son of Shagrat
                      14 Tournament Champion Balance Team Lead Phoenix President Riley
                      15 King of Cybran Game Team Lead Espiranto Personal Compensation Cool Seth-Iavow
                      16 LABwars Champion Creative Team Lead Cool Brackman
                      17 King of Setons Clutch Moderation Team Lead Cool Clarke
                      18 Tournament Participant Community Manager Son of Shagrat xmas
                      19 Winner of Hearts Promotions Team Lead Happy Holidays !
                      20 King of Aeon DevOps Team Lead Princess Rhianne Burke
                      21 Nomads Tournament Champion Game Code Tester Core for ever!
                      22 Clan War Challenger FAF Moderator Cool Riley
                      23 Clan War Champion FAF Developer Dostya
                      24 The Galaxy Cup Champion ICE Tester Rhiza
                      25 2V2 WWPC U3400 Champion M like moderator Zan-Aishahesh
                      26 Prime Commander Finalist FAF Discord Administrator Seth-Iavow
                      27 Survival Champion Grand Sculptor Ladder Warrior
                      28 Average Joes Champion Tournament Donator Kael
                      29 Prince of Aeon Patreon Donator Ultimate Assimilator
                      30 Prince of Cybran Content Creator I'm a special snowflake!
                      31 Holy Trinity Winner Patreon T3 I'm special
                      32 Prince of Seraphim Patreon T4 Nomads
                      33 Eco Emperor Campaign Team Lead Vendetta
                      34 3v3 Spring Champion Moderator (2023) Galactic Conqueror
                      35 Minons and Legends winner Moderator (2023) red Puppetmaster
                      36 2v2 Fixed In Equilibrium FAF Live Team Nomads
                      37 3v3 Summer Champion BalanceTeam ARM
                      38 3v3 Trident Of Power CreativeTeam CORE
                      39 LotS Qualifier Champion GameDevTeam Ladder Knight
                      40 Heart of Black Champion DevOpsTeam Warrior of TMM
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                      • DeribusD Offline
                        Deribus Global Moderator
                        last edited by Deribus

                        Tournament Contributor Personal Other
                        41 King of Astrocrater CampaignTeam Veteran of TMM
                        42 Rebalance Tournament Champion MatchmakingTeam King of TMM
                        43 2v2 Masters Cup TournamentTeam Clairvoyant
                        44 Bronze Musketeer ModerationTeam King of Silver
                        45 Silver Musketeer PromoTeam King of Gold
                        46 Golden Musketeer TrainerTeam King of Diamond
                        47 FAF 2019 Champion Ladder Autumn Gold
                        48 Coffin Tourney Champion Ladder Autumn Grandmaster
                        49 Summer Invitational Champion Ladder Autumn Master
                        50 Summer Invitational Finalist Ladder Summer Grandmaster
                        51 Summer Invitational Qualifier Champion Ladder Summer Master
                        52 King of Dual Gap Ladder Summer Diamond
                        53 Nomads Winner Ladder Summer Gold
                        54 Fall Invitational Qualifier Winner CaveDog
                        55 Fall Invitational Champion Veteran FAFer
                        56 MapGen Tourney Winner PrinceOfTMM
                        57 Rainbow Cup III Champion Nightmare
                        58 The Darkest Heart
                        59 Spring Invitational Qualifier Champion
                        60 Spring Invitational Champion
                        61 Computer Cup Champion
                        62 FAF Champion 2021
                        63 2nd Place Legend of the Stars 2021
                        64 3rd Place Legend of the Stars 2021
                        65 4th Place Legend of the Stars 2021
                        66 RC IV Champion
                        67 Seton's champion
                        68 Seton's fighter
                        69 cringe tournament winner
                        70 Mario Brother
                        71 Luigi Brother
                        72 Cringe Tournament III Champion
                        73 Rainbow Cup V Champion
                        74 FAF World Champion 2022
                        75 2nd Place Legend of the Stars 2022
                        76 3rd Place Legend of the Stars 2022
                        77 4th Place Legend of the Stars 2022
                        78 Rainbow Cup VI Champion
                        79 FAFbetaTourney
                        80 LOTS 2023 1st
                        81 LOTS 2023 2nd
                        82 LOTS 2023 3rd
                        83 LOTS 2023 4th

                        Of these 201 avatars there are 35 which are currently not assigned to anybody.

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                        • GrimplexG Offline
                          Grimplex
                          last edited by

                          uh guys, who took nightmare away from me and kept it in the vault

                          The embodiment of depression...

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                          • DeribusD Offline
                            Deribus Global Moderator @Grimplex
                            last edited by

                            @balanceslave said in Personal/Custom Avatars:

                            uh guys, who took nightmare away from me and kept it in the vault

                            Discussed in pms, almost certainly because of the avatar deletion bug

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                            • GrimplexG Offline
                              Grimplex
                              last edited by

                              Guys deribus is a good guy. Please be nicer to him.

                              The embodiment of depression...

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                              • NOC-N Offline
                                NOC-
                                last edited by NOC-

                                Um there is more than 201. Considering when I login to mod client and look there is around 400+

                                I retract this guessing the avatar bug wiped half of them.

                                So originally 442 were there, now some are missing

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                                • NOC-N Offline
                                  NOC-
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                                  • DeribusD Offline
                                    Deribus Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    The avatar ID increments every time an avatar is uploaded. Yes, the highest avatar ID reached is 442, but that includes avatars that were reuploaded, changed, removed for other reasons, etc. This does not mean that more than half of all avatars have been wiped by the bug.

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                                    • S Offline
                                      StormLantern Team Lead
                                      last edited by

                                      If there are avatars in this list that I or others have a right to. Is there someone I can appeal to?

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                                      • Ctrl-KC Offline
                                        Ctrl-K
                                        last edited by

                                        Avatar drops lets gooo!

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                                        • NOC-N Offline
                                          NOC- @StormLantern
                                          last edited by

                                          @stormlantern Yeah if you ping me on discord with what you should have I can add it to my list to do at some point

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                                          • BanthaFodderB Offline
                                            BanthaFodder
                                            last edited by

                                            Why can't we all get custom avatars of our choosing? What's the big deal. This would be nothing but a plus for FAF

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