Jeebus this is still going on. @Jip what the fuck man, reading your responses to pro was rough. Chill out dude. How in the hell is there now a partisan position on "this process is pain".
Have you considered that the reason few people might raise issues is because of how frustrating and painful talking about anything that doesnt fall into the existing, neat boxes for issues that are currently established?
At this point I regret even speaking out on this and I'm actually willing to accept that sanctuary will cost me money, but when the client breaks in a truly permanent way, I'll have to give them money Id have rather given to FAF.
What the hell man, you managed to sell me sanctuary this has been such a pleasant experience the past 2 years or so.
Looking at this it seems that you also got this impression, maybe this is why you think it had enough context, because you made the same mistake assuming that zulip was relevant for normal players.
The impressions people get from the current faf communication and processes is basically the problem here. Im glad to see you bring it up because I have been trying so hard to get that across.
You can not necessarily point new bugs to newer client versions, because the ecosystem all around has changed a lot.
Tighter OneDrive integration casues lots of issues today, that weren't a problem in Windows XP days
UCP access stuff has changed
Antivirus and firewalls got much more aggressive and restrictive on the end-user site as well as intermediary network operators who do shitty IPv4 support
On linux I doubt my issues are caused by those things I dont have. Im not asking for support on my platform. What I'd like is a reference platform that people use which is well supported. If the majority platform has these issues, and my unsupported one has more that really doesnt bode well for me being able to use the thing issue free.
On the linux side we at least dont have install4j either so thats a plus.
My position on paid people is that there was a crippling memory leak issue for a time and I saw a random platform post thing somewhere where someone got a bounty and shortly after it was resolved, hence why Im optimistic it could be made to work.
Im not here to roast devs or their work. I would like the work of all the hard working people here to be the kind of work the community can be proud of and which we can bring new people into the community and say "look, this thing is awesome" and we're almost there. But at the moment, the first thing a new person needs to know is "yeah thats not frozen, its normal", "yeah that means you need to restart the client because reasons" etc etc.
Honestly I have very little to add, I was just kind of shocked to see how pro of all people gets treated by association with someone voicing an issues. Like what the hell, way to prove the worst part of my point