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    • arma473A Offline
      arma473
      last edited by

      Has this "draw bug" been fixed?

      Game #15535906 - it appears to be ranked as a win (I gained 15 rating, my opponent lost 13 rating)

      I wasn't trying to exploit the draw bug. I thought they fixed it.

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      • AskaholicA Offline
        Askaholic
        last edited by

        Nope it hasn’t

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        • K Offline
          keyser
          last edited by

          the fix got reverted, because it made more games unrated

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          • NOC-N Offline
            NOC-
            last edited by

            This whole idea is idiotic.
            The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
            If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

            Ras Boi's save lives.

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            • ZeldafanboyZ Offline
              Zeldafanboy @NOC-
              last edited by

              @noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

              This whole idea is idiotic.
              The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
              If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

              see

              @ftxcommando said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

              The bug is that a draw counts as a win not that a draw happens. It’s a bug on how the client reports game results to the server.

              put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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              • AskaholicA Offline
                Askaholic @keyser
                last edited by

                @keyser said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                the fix got reverted, because it made more games unrated

                Well there wasn’t really a fix. The “fix” was to revert the fixes for the games being unrated, therefore making them unrated again 😅.

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                • arma473A Offline
                  arma473 @NOC-
                  last edited by

                  @noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                  This whole idea is idiotic.
                  The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
                  If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

                  We're way past the idea of punishing people. I argued against it when it was first proposed. Now the plan is just to fix the bug. It's just hard to fix bugs sometimes. You try to fix something and 5 new problems come up.

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                  • MoraxM Offline
                    Morax @arma473
                    last edited by

                    @arma473 said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                    @noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                    This whole idea is idiotic.
                    The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
                    If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

                    We're way past the idea of punishing people. I argued against it when it was first proposed. Now the plan is just to fix the bug. It's just hard to fix bugs sometimes. You try to fix something and 5 new problems come up.

                    That is not exactly true: if someone knowingly does it you can have it reviewed; if someone does it add does not realize one should not be punished.

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                    • JipJ Offline
                      Jip
                      last edited by Jip

                      I think this is not something that can be moderated. Instead, we just need to find a reliable fix. Sadly, it is a very time consuming to debug.

                      A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                      • MoraxM Offline
                        Morax @Jip
                        last edited by Morax

                        @jip said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                        I think this is not something that can be moderated. Instead, we just need to find a reliable fix. Sadly, it is a very time consuming to debug.

                        It’s already been decided. This thread is over six months old.

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                        • FtXCommandoF Offline
                          FtXCommando
                          last edited by

                          There is nothing in the FAF rules that disallows you from ctrl+k'ing on people.

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                          • MoraxM Offline
                            Morax @FtXCommando
                            last edited by Morax

                            @ftxcommando said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                            There is nothing in the FAF rules that disallows you from ctrl+k'ing on people.

                            See above, read the whole thread.

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                            • FtXCommandoF Offline
                              FtXCommando
                              last edited by

                              I see Swkoll saying he would theoretically handle reports and Tex and Resistance saying it shouldn't be bannable. I also see no real arguments for how a ban on it would be enforced but a lot of arguments about why it's just a recipe for issues.

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                              • MoraxM Offline
                                Morax
                                last edited by

                                You’re missing some key points, but the regardless it’s a heavily frowned upon act to use intentionally.

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                                • TheVVheelboyT Offline
                                  TheVVheelboy
                                  last edited by

                                  Lame

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                                  • BlackYpsB Offline
                                    BlackYps
                                    last edited by

                                    What key points? You can't make something bannable based on if it is done intentionally, because you can't know for sure if somebody is aware of the bug. Also, if you want to punish people for it, it should really be listed in the official rules.

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                                    • ResistanceR Offline
                                      Resistance
                                      last edited by

                                      it won't be listed in the official rules cause it's not bannable,chill

                                      queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                                      • BlackYpsB Offline
                                        BlackYps
                                        last edited by

                                        I am. I was just replying to Morax that seemed to be under the impression that it is already forbidden. And it not being listed there convinces me of the opposite.

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                                        • GiebmasseG Offline
                                          Giebmasse Team Lead @Resistance
                                          last edited by Giebmasse

                                          @rezy-noob said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                                          it won't be listed in the official rules cause it's not bannable,chill

                                          Purposefully doing it definitely falls under our generic "do not abuse exploits/bugs/loopholes" rule.

                                          E: For clarification, the bug/exploit being that in a draw situation the player who ctrl-k'd gets a "win" even though it should be a "draw".

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                                          • NOC-N Offline
                                            NOC-
                                            last edited by

                                            I am soo confused at this point

                                            Ras Boi's save lives.

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