@FtXCommando said in Atlantis:

yes, that is what i asked

a game play should be straight forward to understand. There shouldn't be tactics abusing a dubious logic to be part of the meta.
For a new comer, a bs with little torpedo capability shouldn't be able to counter submarine.

on top of this, the way you have to do it seems counter intuitive :

• you can't just click the sub, you have to ground fire it
• you need to ground fire next to the sub then drag the order on the sub
• if you don't want to waste a round of shots, you need to ground fire outside of the range, and then drag the order on top of the sub

because they behave the same otherwise. but if you want to ground fire, you just need to give an attack order on the ground, and you don't need to change the attack mode before that

plot twist : https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/3155

it's called a signature

@TheWheelie said in Atlantis:

Even though it is unintuitive it doesnt mean that it is broken and/or a bad mechanic

yes it means that it is a bad mechanic game design wise.
It works (read : game is balanced ish), but it isn't healthy; and a balance avoiding this mechanism is preferable.

we are going to push a fix for rating. Hopefully this one will actually work.

@archsimkat said in Fire beetle balance suggestion:

Also, btw, beetles don’t target enemy beetles. Beetles also cannot do damage to enemy beetles. Pls fix.

beetles can target enemy beetles, for the other issue it is already fixed and will be pushed in the next game patch.

@TheWheelie said in Atlantis:

sorry used the wrong word. i meant bad for gameplay

well i'm gonna give you another situation :
Let's remove aa from the game.
But don't worry you can still kill planes by groundfiring arty.
Good news is that you raise the skill threshold and you induce some big brain gameplay where the guy with bomber will try to dodge arty shots before dropping etc
you can even have it balance : some pre-shot visualisation to predict in a easier fashion where to shoot; maybe increase all the rof of arty.
In the end would that be better gameplay or worse gameplay than what we have ? well you might like that, but i wouldn't enjoy it tbh.

@Jip said in Cheating in SupcomFA:

@deletethis: That is pretty much what I mean, but then more easy to find!

A news post was made for that thread. It's now in the pinned news post of the news hub. We can always improve it and try to display it in a better way (automatic pm at 100 games or something similar), but it don't have a lot of idea on how to display that kind of stuff in a better way.

Iirc from last balance team it was decided to ajust the price of T3 mex to take into accoubt the price of the T2 mex.
Though we weren't 100% how it would affect the reclaim etc etc

those changes sneaked in by mistake and weren't tested. I will do a hotfix to revert that. Thanks for the report.

i can see a logic to that, to see nuke sub used as well for their tml capabilities

@speed2 i don't feel like being an accomplished french, if i can't even raise the white flag.

I think it's racism against french.

maybe this time i will be selected to participate in !

yes i think that was what marlo (or whoever is the guy in the mod discord) made. Iirc, they weren't hyped, but i will try to talk about it in the next balance team meeting

@ZeRen said in Different icon for drone engineers:

I wonder what FAF devs think about, for example different icon for ACU and SACU, so ACU cant hide in that cancer

allowed?

talked to balance team about it. We had some example of different possible icons, they would prefer something that is way different than current icon for sacu.
I might do a "tourney" to grab the best looking icon at some point.

i'll give it a shot if i'm allowed

we have already had the discussion about the balance side of this decision several time. I think everything been said on that part.

as for the point on spread move / disperse move :

• I think this is only used to split air scout, so it wouldn't be a huge lose (although zlo showcased some use for reclaim naval field)
• I will try to find a way to not break it, but i'm highly pessimistic about that.

didn't read your post but, the pr you are showing is here to preventing cheating : UI mods abusing the feature to give order to units (ie auto dodging, auto hover bombing etc etc). It is also here to remove the split move to trap ACU with T1 units (balance decision in accordance with the balance councillor).
It isn't ready (would have made it last patch otherwise), it shouldn't cancel single move order (as zlo pointed out). Spread move / disperse move not working after that, would be an unfortunate side effect.