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Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense

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    arma473
    last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 03:10

    Has this "draw bug" been fixed?

    Game #15535906 - it appears to be ranked as a win (I gained 15 rating, my opponent lost 13 rating)

    I wasn't trying to exploit the draw bug. I thought they fixed it.

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      Askaholic
      last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 04:28

      Nope it hasn’t

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        keyser
        last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 08:03

        the fix got reverted, because it made more games unrated

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          NOC-
          last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 12:06

          This whole idea is idiotic.
          The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
          If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

          Ras Boi's save lives.

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            Zeldafanboy @NOC-
            last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 13:36

            @noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

            This whole idea is idiotic.
            The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
            If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

            see

            @ftxcommando said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

            The bug is that a draw counts as a win not that a draw happens. It’s a bug on how the client reports game results to the server.

            put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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              Askaholic @keyser
              last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 14:47

              @keyser said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

              the fix got reverted, because it made more games unrated

              Well there wasn’t really a fix. The “fix” was to revert the fixes for the games being unrated, therefore making them unrated again 😅.

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                arma473 @NOC-
                last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 16:38

                @noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                This whole idea is idiotic.
                The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
                If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

                We're way past the idea of punishing people. I argued against it when it was first proposed. Now the plan is just to fix the bug. It's just hard to fix bugs sometimes. You try to fix something and 5 new problems come up.

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                  Morax @arma473
                  last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 17:17

                  @arma473 said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                  @noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                  This whole idea is idiotic.
                  The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
                  If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

                  We're way past the idea of punishing people. I argued against it when it was first proposed. Now the plan is just to fix the bug. It's just hard to fix bugs sometimes. You try to fix something and 5 new problems come up.

                  That is not exactly true: if someone knowingly does it you can have it reviewed; if someone does it add does not realize one should not be punished.

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                    Jip
                    last edited by Jip 18 Oct 2021, 17:44

                    I think this is not something that can be moderated. Instead, we just need to find a reliable fix. Sadly, it is a very time consuming to debug.

                    A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                      Morax @Jip
                      last edited by Morax 18 Oct 2021, 23:20

                      @jip said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                      I think this is not something that can be moderated. Instead, we just need to find a reliable fix. Sadly, it is a very time consuming to debug.

                      It’s already been decided. This thread is over six months old.

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                        FtXCommando
                        last edited by 18 Oct 2021, 23:33

                        There is nothing in the FAF rules that disallows you from ctrl+k'ing on people.

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                          Morax @FtXCommando
                          last edited by Morax 19 Oct 2021, 00:24

                          @ftxcommando said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                          There is nothing in the FAF rules that disallows you from ctrl+k'ing on people.

                          See above, read the whole thread.

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                            FtXCommando
                            last edited by 19 Oct 2021, 00:28

                            I see Swkoll saying he would theoretically handle reports and Tex and Resistance saying it shouldn't be bannable. I also see no real arguments for how a ban on it would be enforced but a lot of arguments about why it's just a recipe for issues.

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                              Morax
                              last edited by 19 Oct 2021, 00:44

                              You’re missing some key points, but the regardless it’s a heavily frowned upon act to use intentionally.

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                                TheVVheelboy
                                last edited by 19 Oct 2021, 00:51

                                Lame

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                                  BlackYps
                                  last edited by 19 Oct 2021, 08:24

                                  What key points? You can't make something bannable based on if it is done intentionally, because you can't know for sure if somebody is aware of the bug. Also, if you want to punish people for it, it should really be listed in the official rules.

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                                    Resistance
                                    last edited by 19 Oct 2021, 08:26

                                    it won't be listed in the official rules cause it's not bannable,chill

                                    queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                                      BlackYps
                                      last edited by 19 Oct 2021, 08:33

                                      I am. I was just replying to Morax that seemed to be under the impression that it is already forbidden. And it not being listed there convinces me of the opposite.

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                                        Giebmasse Team Lead @Resistance
                                        last edited by Giebmasse 19 Oct 2021, 12:42

                                        @rezy-noob said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

                                        it won't be listed in the official rules cause it's not bannable,chill

                                        Purposefully doing it definitely falls under our generic "do not abuse exploits/bugs/loopholes" rule.

                                        E: For clarification, the bug/exploit being that in a draw situation the player who ctrl-k'd gets a "win" even though it should be a "draw".

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                                          NOC-
                                          last edited by 19 Oct 2021, 12:45

                                          I am soo confused at this point

                                          Ras Boi's save lives.

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