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    Swkoll
    last edited by Swkoll 26 Jun 2021, 13:51

    Instructions for the tournament:

    1. Join the #computercup irc channel, you can do this by clicking the "+" in the chat window and typing "#computercup"
    2. Check what group you are in (below), this will determine which maps you play vs which AI. This ensures every AI plays each map a somewhat equal amount of time and players get different maps each game.
    3. Starting at 15:00 UTC, everyone is going to start playing their games vs AI using this chart below from top to bottom. Everyone's first game is vs RNGAI, then AI-Swarm etc.
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    4. Each AI mod will need to be downloaded from the vault (guide). Some AIs will require AI-Usevo to be active to work (RNGAI, AI-Swarm, Marlo's Sorian AI edit). If AI-Usevo is on please enable "Ai Map Marker Generator": "Autogenerate Always" in settings. (guide) Sorian AI is built into the client and does not require downloading.
    5. Host each game, all games should use default spawns (slot 1 vs slot 2), you can pick whatever faction you would like, AIs should be played on random, except for DilliDalli and Marlo's Sorian AI edit whose faction picks can be found in the chart where Yellow is Seraphim, Green is Aeon, Red is Cybran, and Blue is UEF. (hosting guide)
    6. Play each game and report the result in the #computercup channel (ie won vs Sorian AI)

    Group 1:
    IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO
    MajorTrouble
    Group 2:
    Protect
    gonglinyuan
    Group 3:
    FemtoZetta
    CowGod
    Group 4:
    graftod666
    Dankmemes
    Group 5:
    NapSpan
    Hemfast
    Group 6:
    Jip
    ButelkaOlejku
    Group 7:
    Askaholic
    coufounazeer
    Group 8:
    maudlin27
    Fury
    Group 9:
    RandomWheelchair

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      Swkoll @IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO
      last edited by 26 Jun 2021, 13:53

      @iamtheplokokiopo Sorian AI is built into the client and doesn't require downloading, Skouby's AI is actually called SACUAI and the post has been updated to reflect this.

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        Jip
        last edited by Jip 26 Jun 2021, 17:03

        Here's the list of games played:

        • Marlo's edit: https://replay.faforever.com/14790965
        • Sorian: https://replay.faforever.com/14790846
        • Uveso: https://replay.faforever.com/14790778
        • Dilli: https://replay.faforever.com/14790634
        • SCAI: https://replay.faforever.com/14790450
        • Swarm: https://replay.faforever.com/14790350
        • Emerald: https://replay.faforever.com/14790174

        edit: not all games have the right name - I forgot to edit them in between at times

        A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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          maudlin27
          last edited by maudlin27 26 Jun 2021, 17:12

          Replay IDs for my games (AI lost them all):

          • Saltrock Colony - RNG Standard - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790159
          • Theta Passage - FAF Version - Swarm Terror - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790304
          • Emerald Crater - AI: SACU - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790414
          • Crossfire Canal - FAF version - DilliDalli - AI Faction Aeon; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790669
          • Polar Depression - Uveso Adaptive - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790783
          • Open Palms - FAF Version - Sorian Adaptive - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790918
          • Summer Duel - Marlo's Sorian AI edit: Adaptive - AI Faction Cybran; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14791298

          A couple of points that struck me in particular while playing:
          DilliDalli - I first played on the map with it as Sera (forgot it was meant to be Aeon) and the Com charged to an island alone allowing an easy kill with air.
          Tried again with them as Aeon thinking it was just that it shouldve had hover units to support, but it did the same thing

          SACU AI - the AI appeared to send all (or most) of it's land army out of the way to attack one wall segment that my Engi had built on an island before it died (there was nothing of value of mine nearby and I had no units there)

          M27AI and M28AI developer; Devlogs and more general AI development guide:
          https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v71-devlog
          https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v150

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            TheVVheelboy
            last edited by 26 Jun 2021, 17:21

            PoR - RNG AI - https://replay.faforever.com/14789914
            Saltrock - Swarm - https://replay.faforever.com/14790411
            Theta - SacuAI - https://replay.faforever.com/14790510
            Emerald crater - dili dali - https://replay.faforever.com/14790595
            Crossfire - Uveso - https://replay.faforever.com/14790706
            Poalr depression - Sorian - https://replay.faforever.com/14790971
            Open palms - Sorian Edit - https://replay.faforever.com/14791082

            Imo the one with most potential is dili. Could see it kicking ass of some -200 - 300 rated players in ladder.

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              FemtoZetta
              last edited by FemtoZetta 26 Jun 2021, 17:36

              AI Map Replay comment
              RNGAI Open Palms https://replay.faforever.com/14791086 forgot to turn on markers the first time, so this is the second attempt
              AI-Swarm Summer Duel https://replay.faforever.com/14790327
              SACUAI Cobalt Valley https://replay.faforever.com/14790415
              AI: DilliDalli Point of Reach https://replay.faforever.com/14790493
              AI-Uveso Saltrock Colony https://replay.faforever.com/14790667
              Sorian AI Theta Passage https://replay.faforever.com/14790773
              Sorian Edit Emerald Crater https://replay.faforever.com/14790869
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                Deribus Global Moderator
                last edited by 26 Jun 2021, 17:47

                Damn Femto, fancy

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                  MajorTrouble
                  last edited by MajorTrouble 26 Jun 2021, 18:33

                  Screenshot 2021-06-26 133534.png

                  Some things I noted while playing

                  SACU AI might've actually competed with me had it done any reclaim, it had ample opportunity but didn't

                  Sorian Edit didn't build any hydro plants

                  DilliDalli was VERY aggressive - I liked that, too many new players including myself have to learn to be aggressive and the AI generally aren't aggressive enough to teach that

                  AI Swarm gave me the most trouble and if it weren't for the 45 min time limit, it would've been a loss for me
                  I might've done better with a different faction(aeon probably) but regardless, well done to the dev

                  Also, I copied the graph from FemtoZetta-Very Nice

                  https://replay.faforever.com/14790162
                  https://replay.faforever.com/14790329
                  https://replay.faforever.com/14790775
                  https://replay.faforever.com/14790896
                  https://replay.faforever.com/14790994
                  https://replay.faforever.com/14791317
                  https://replay.faforever.com/14791498

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                    Softles
                    last edited by 26 Jun 2021, 20:16

                    AI vs AI game results are as follows:

                    Place AI Points
                    1 RNG Standard 47
                    2 DilliDalli 43.5
                    3 Swarm Terror 32.5
                    4 SACU AI 22.5
                    5 Sorian Adaptive 19.5
                    6 Uveso Adaptive 16
                    7 Sorian Edit Adaptive 8

                    Head to head results:
                    (AI by row, opponent by column, points are "for the AI, against the opponent")

                    AI\Opponent DilliDalli RNG Standard SACU AI Sorian Adaptive Sorian Edit Adaptive Swarm Terror Uveso Adaptive
                    DilliDalli - 4.5 6.5 7.5 9 7 9
                    RNG Standard 4.5 - 8 8 9 8.5 9
                    SACU AI 2.5 1 - 5.5 7 3 3.5
                    Sorian Adaptive 1.5 1 3.5 - 7 1 5
                    Sorian Edit Adaptive 0 0 2 1 - 1 3.5
                    Swarm Terror 2 0.5 6 8 8 - 8
                    Uveso Adaptive 0 0 5.5 4 5.5 1 -

                    Raw (JSON formatted) results as output from my script: results.txt

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                      Swkoll
                      last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 16:35

                      Results:

                      Congrats to RNGAI by relent0r and chp2001 for winning the overall tournament and AI vs AI with 47 points total!

                      Additionally, congrats to AI: DilliDalli by Softles for winning the Player vs AI portion of the tournament with 1 point!

                      An honorable mention goes to AI-Swarm by Azraeel for being the only other AI to score points in the player vs AI portion of the tournament and for coming in 3rd overall.

                      Overall results:

                      1. RNGAI
                      2. AI: DilliDalli
                      3. AI-Swarm
                      4. SACUAI
                      5. Sorian AI
                      6. AI-Uveso
                      7. Marlo's Sorian AI Edit

                      AI vs AI Results:

                      1. RNGAI
                      2. AI: DilliDalli
                      3. AI-Swarm
                      4. SACUAI
                      5. Sorian AI
                      6. AI-Uveso
                      7. Marlo's Sorian AI Edit

                      Player vs AI Results:

                      1. AI: DilliDalli
                      2. AI-Swarm

                      Thanks to everyone who made AIs to participate and to all the players who showed up to help benchmark the AIs.

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                        relentless
                        last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 22:55

                        Thanks for organising Swkoll! and the players for providing some interesting replays to ponder over (and whoever did the twitch cast as they pointed out where the AI's were failing by comparison to the humans they were fighting).

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                          Utopian
                          last edited by 27 Jun 2021, 23:41

                          Damn, Uveso did much worse than I was expecting to be honest. Props to RNG though!

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                            archsimkat
                            last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 02:00

                            @relentless Swkoll also did the twitch cast!

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                              relentless
                              last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 03:58

                              oh nice! didn't know his voice, in which case 2x thanks!

                              and Utopian Uveso would have done better but there was a little communication break down as to which variant of Uveso was used, the one selected was more suited to turtle game play than his rush one is. Next time it'll do better.

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                                Morax
                                last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 15:53

                                Finally, someone made a AI that can teach new players the need to be aggressive?!!?!?!

                                I am excite!

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                                  furyritchie
                                  last edited by 29 Jun 2021, 03:36

                                  I failed to eco and got completely surprised when Dilli Dalli expanded so fast. It probably wouldn't happen a second time but it was at least a pleasant change from easily winning against the Adaptive AI.

                                  Former Board Member - March 2021 - March 2022

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                                    Skoub
                                    last edited by 29 Jun 2021, 08:46

                                    Thanks for motivate me to do some work on my ai 😄

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                                      Saver
                                      last edited by 30 Jun 2021, 16:15

                                      gibt es die möglichkeit, das Turnier via YouTube zu schauen?

                                      auch mal fünf gerade sein lassen

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                                        TheVVheelboy
                                        last edited by 30 Jun 2021, 16:44

                                        Nein, derzeit ist es unmöglich. Den VoD des Turniers könnt ihr euch auf der Twitch-Seite ansehen.
                                        https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1068311673

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                                          Saver @TheVVheelboy
                                          last edited by 1 Jul 2021, 14:50

                                          @randomwheelchair Thanks 🙂

                                          auch mal fünf gerade sein lassen

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