such professionalism Jip!

p.s nice work on todays patch!

Add a reclaim metric to the post game graph. Actually I've never checked if its recorded during the game, I just remember it from the supreme score board during replays.

Thanks for organising Swkoll! and the players for providing some interesting replays to ponder over (and whoever did the twitch cast as they pointed out where the AI's were failing by comparison to the humans they were fighting).

svenni_badbwoi has done some great work with some of the older maps and has really improved them, I can see some of them are already in this list. It would be great to replace some of the other maps with those versions on ladder, forbidden pass being one of them.

This is great reading. Especially about the auth woes. Makes you appreciate just how much unpaid time is put in.

The replays were ok for me,
To be fair Mylaur anyone above a 300 rank playing against a non cheating AI is going to have an easy time.
For giggles you could try RNGAI (self promotion, just make sure you read the description for setup tips) with a 1.5 cheat/build multiplier on that same map and see if your experience changes.

Getting the acu to be remotely in the realm of a human is damn near impossible(have spent days/weeks/months trying), an (almost) single threaded game just doesn't have enough clock cycles to do complex calculations at the speed to capture the data required to react and make decisions, you can do fake micro but like you said the acu doesn't really know 'what' to do.

Example for reference : getting aeon auroras the try and maintain weapon range on a target during combat takes approximately 7 function calls per second per unit plus supporting logic, if there are 50 T1 auroras on the field fighting that's 350 per second and 50 units is a small number.

Curious to know what your after from the mod here Rogue_Price. Are you interested in improved enemy AI (harder? smarter?) or improved supporting AI (the ones that assist you etc).

The bulk of AI's don't do naval expansions very well. I've only just started trying to remedy that with mine.
This is likely where the request to decrease the expansion settings come from. Also the marker generator can make matters worse on certain maps when it comes to naval expansions.
Since we are talking about Sorian, it doesn't require a positive mass income to go and build a naval expansion. But each one (assuming its a T1 engineer, if its T2 then its worse) will set it back almost 1000 mass just to establish. So 5 of those in the first 20 mins meanwhile the human already put that mass into building actual ships.

In general though the expansion limits are also going to impact performance since every expansion is going to spin up some process heavy managers. The expansions are a double edged sword and the usefulness/detriment of them often comes down to how they were designed for that particular AI and what map type is being used, gameplay style is being played.

Sorian will make giant proxy bases that require significant investment, other AI will make the bare minimum so the eco can be used for main base production. Pros and cons to each approach.

I'm keen to have my AI playing in it. Though I'm in a terrible timezone so will will need to recruit someone for the support side of it.

I did a quick round of map testing and found issues with these two maps
Open Palms
Regor VI Highlands

Open Palms has land pathing issues. The default path markers and the Uveso generator make the AI think they can walk to the two side mass point areas but they can't. Would need adjusted pathing markers done.
Regor VI Highlands has 2 mass points that are too close to the map border so the AI can't build mass points on that. (lower right half of the map and upper left half of the map is where the two mass points live).

Both are great maps though from a gameplay perspective.

Setting up AI's to fight each other is ok to get a base number.
Good to have as side information side (another tab on your spreadsheet maybe? its easier to setup an AI game and walk away if your low on time). Small note here, recently the skirmish game mode was made to allow the human to become observer so you could run these on the offline executable without spamming replays to the replay server.

But I kinda agree with tatsu in that its not representative of how those same AI's will fair against humans and there needs to be a 'feel' indicator, especially when it comes to how they play with different human play styles, map preferences, cheat multipliers and even ai game settings. One might do ok against a turtle but garbage against a pressure player and vice versa. Its all 'eye of the beholder' sort of thing, but as someone whos stared at AI games far too much its worth something.

@bangernoob Ah yea fair call. I was seeing if I could get an AI to replicate some of the BO on Arcane and trying to work out at what point its considered a failed BO due to how long it took to get from phase 1 to expansion or scaling phase because of deviation.

I know its available in the replays, but it would be cool to have approx timings for each phase.

Yea I ran into the same issue as of 3 days ago. Not an issue previously.

I didn't feel it was the ice adaptors (handles the faf player connections) fault as I hadn't seen any updates to it that day. But alot of people reported the same issue suddenly. I'm not sure if it was an upstream internet provider change or something. Hoping we can track down the cause as turning off ipv6 is a little extreme.

The details person in me wants the blinking lights to match the faction colour if they are static. But I couldn't see a blue blinky light.

Would love to see 20km map games with all 3 theaters. But I know we don't have enough coverage in the AI's for naval. But thats an area where we are weakest.

Ah yup cool. I'd never looked at campaign AI before so was quite a fascinating exercise in how it compares to the skirmish.

Thanks for the historical info there speed, didn't know so much thought had gone into it.

Random question Speed, did you disable the campaign ACU combat logic for FAF? (its called CDROverchargeBehavior referencing the OpBehaviors.lua file with a note about issues it was causing with the engineer manager).

Curious to know what your after from the mod here Rogue_Price. Are you interested in improved enemy AI (harder? smarter?) or improved supporting AI (the ones that assist you etc).

Add a reclaim metric to the post game graph. Actually I've never checked if its recorded during the game, I just remember it from the supreme score board during replays.

Does it happen on all maps? Curious if it happens to you on maps with no water.

On the next version I'll add a file integrity check so it can produce an error if the files for each player dont match.