Discussing the "rename rule"
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@jip said in Discussing the "rename rule":
@ftxcommando said in Discussing the "rename rule":
Does it contribute to a healthy environment to ban people that are having fun having impersonating names and not being toxic within the rules? Because currently like 10-15% of the active 1800+ players have taken each other’s names and are impersonating each other. Do we stop that?
Do you need to impersonate others to have fun?
What kind of question is that. Of course you can have fun without. Doens't change the fact that you can also have fun with the name changes.
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@jip said in Discussing the "rename rule":
@ftxcommando said in Discussing the "rename rule":
Does it contribute to a healthy environment to ban people that are having fun having impersonating names and not being toxic within the rules? Because currently like 10-15% of the active 1800+ players have taken each other’s names and are impersonating each other. Do we stop that?
Do you need to impersonate others to have fun?
Tbh, at this point you can just remove renames all together. Cuz what's the reasoning behind allowing them once a month, if you are gonna have multiple names be off the list cuz someone once used them?
Like, are we gonna start banning everyone who renames to a name that was once had by someone?
I can fully understand if someone is malicious with the renames and behaving like a twat/breaking the rules. But if nobody is getting hurt then why be so uptight about them. Especially when all the parties actually involved don't see a problem with it apart from the moderation team.
Like how many "hide on bush" are there in league? And yet none of them are getting banned as long as they are actually behaving like a normal human being instead of being toxic pos.
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@nuggets hello sir please pick one thing you enjoy in life and only do that one thing for the rest of your life.
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Just to make sure this is not misunderstood: we did not ban a player permanently for name-impersonating. We only locked the account until the player contacted us to change their name to a new name, then changed the name and unlocked the account.
Also, in this particular case the two names in question were indistinguishable: the only difference between 'Deli' and 'DeIi' is that the latter doesn't use a lower-case L, but a capital-case i. That caused issues, and so we told the last player to change his name to pick another username.
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@indexlibrorum said in Discussing the "rename rule":
Just to make sure this is not misunderstood: we did not ban a player permanently for name-impersonating. We only locked the account until the player contacted us to change their name to a new name, then changed the name and unlocked the account.
Also, in this particular case the two names in question were indistinguishable: the only difference between 'Deli' and 'DeIi' is that the latter doesn't use a lower-case L, but a capital-case i. That caused issues, and so we told the last player to change his name to pick another username.
First of all, we dont discuss moderation actions!! But if you are, please elaborate "that caused issues". Are you talking about the rule or the report?
I think everybody, or at least most people, understand what i meant. Doesn't change the fact that this rule (in my opinion) has no use case and is not enforced anywhere else (even in other small communities)
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As with all the made up rules for the Forged Alliance Forever client, the rules apply to some but not to all.
In the case of this renaming rule debacle, take some of these current SNF clan members. The most active of these players have all changed their names to various other members, and not just the members from within the clan but outside the clan too. This is completely fine apparently.
According to my sources, it's fine because they are just "joking". My source being someone who has suffered the consequences of this bias rule
I stand with Nuggets in principle, that this rule is nonsensical essentially. I see 0 harm in renaming to someone else or similar. I mean how do you change your name to someone else's anyway when presumably the name is taken.
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Everyone should be required to use their legal name on FAF. Stop using all your weird fake names.
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@thomashiatt What's weird is that you're active in a forum for a game you don't play
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Stop being disrespectful to one of the top FAFlive chatters, you toxic rat!
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Disrespectful.
Laughing my f*ing a off
If I could literally laugh my a** off right now, my a** would be laughed off.
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OwO Attention, precious beans of our gaming family~! (*≧ω≦)ﾉ Remember, no pretending to be someone else, okay? Let's keep it real and cuddly~! giggles Thankies, darlings! ♡( ◡‿◡ )
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Men. Downvote the man above me for what he said. That's what we got Tryth for!
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So I randomly stumbled upon this again, because someone upvoted me and I got a notification.
I like how we were here, every non-moderator kind of agreed with my initial take on this, and the next thing that happens was Gieb's post with making the rule even more strict. As the moderators keep saying they are open to feedback and adjusting things, I'd like to put this back into memory. Mainly because, even though this is 1 year old, this topic is still very annoying. -
May I then correct your memory if you wish to bring it back up and by doing so also claim incorrect things.
Initial:
https://forum.faforever.com/topic/7653/username-rules-updates?page=1After feedback:
https://forum.faforever.com/topic/7653/username-rules-updates/201?page=11 -
Maybe I went a bit over the top with my comment, but I feel the core was correct. The initial point of this topic was declined, and while feedback is taken into account (otherwise we would have longer rename periods), it still, at the very least in this topic, cant be seen in the resulting rule change regarding this
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Don't confuse lack of opposing opinions as absolute stance for your arguments. The majority of people don't participate in these kind of discussions. I am
completely against changing names because I see no value for the community as a whole. I personally find it is annoying to but be able to recognize people. But I get that some people want it every now and then... but that might be sufficient like one a year in my opinion. -
Yeah I know and recognize that posting my stuff here does not mean this HAS to be the outcome of something. Regardless, the rename thread is the perfect example of people discussing here to change / lower the rule, and suddenly it gets more strict and then SLIGHTLY less strict after, once again, huge backlash while not addressing the core issues. It is the way FAF wants to have the rules which is a big issue.
Very broad and very easy to use rules. Sounds good on paper, but is bad when being applied.The fact that you dont get why "we" want a faster rename period just shows that you dont play this game usually / in tourneys.
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