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    Ctrl-K @archsimkat
    last edited by 8 Sept 2022, 21:38

    @archsimkat I think It would require engine changes, I can only tell that for engies shift+alt is possible through UI

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      Ctrl-K
      last edited by 9 Sept 2022, 14:30

      @archsimkat
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        archsimkat
        last edited by 9 Sept 2022, 14:39

        Nice work 4z0t! Let us know when the mod is up 🙂

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          Ctrl-K
          last edited by 10 Sept 2022, 09:16

          @archsimkat mod
          is done and works fine for me

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            Jip
            last edited by Jip 23 Sept 2022, 12:43

            Updated the post with the new features about recall, mouse sharing and the changes we're making to reclaim labels. See also the second post:

            • https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4705/upcoming-developers-patch/2

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              Ctrl-K
              last edited by Ctrl-K 23 Sept 2022, 13:10

              One shot, ten deprecated mods

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                MarcSpector
                last edited by 23 Sept 2022, 13:23

                I liked the changes with reclaim labels. Good job, Jip and his team! You are the best!

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                  veteranashe
                  last edited by 23 Sept 2022, 13:24

                  I love recall

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                    snoog
                    last edited by 23 Sept 2022, 13:38

                    You guys are doing awesome work.

                    One question, does recall require being alive? If not, I think it should.

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                      Jip
                      last edited by 23 Sept 2022, 14:32

                      It requires you to be not defeated, yes.

                      A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                        KaletheQuick
                        last edited by 24 Sept 2022, 18:55

                        This recall feature is outstanding!
                        We can live to fight another day!

                        Would it possibly have any effect on ranking changes? Nothing big, but the equation evaluates it as if your ranks were closer if you recall instead of die.

                        This could incentivise people to not stay in a losing battle of attrition forever, or toy with people who don't know they are defeated.

                        Knowing that it's time to retreat is a good commander quality, and this is kinda diagetically like that.

                        Perhaps in ranked games there is a signal the enemy is retreating, and it takes a moment to charge.

                        Anyway, love the feature!

                        You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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                          FtXCommando
                          last edited by FtXCommando 24 Sept 2022, 19:14

                          No, then whole game revolves around manipulating pressing a button in whatever environment it gets pushed into and unfairly punishes new players/discourages playing with new players who have zero reason to expect such a mechanic impacts real rating.

                          Not to mention the obvious increase in toxicity that is going to follow people losing more rating because their teammate didn’t listen to them, regardless of who was right.

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                            Nex @Jip
                            last edited by 24 Sept 2022, 19:47

                            @jip said in Upcoming developers patch:

                            It requires you to be not defeated, yes.

                            So it only counts alive players from a team?
                            So a dead player can't start a vote?

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                              Jip
                              last edited by 24 Sept 2022, 19:50

                              A dead player will not be able to vote, yes.

                              A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                                Jip
                                last edited by 24 Sept 2022, 19:50

                                @KaletheQuick it won't impact rating - if you recall then you are 'defeated'.

                                A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                                  KaletheQuick @Jip
                                  last edited by 25 Sept 2022, 00:18

                                  @jip oh darn. still awesome to see! lots of people seem to like it as well. good work!

                                  You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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                                    Blodir @Ctrl-K
                                    last edited by 25 Sept 2022, 07:57

                                    @genos said in Upcoming developers patch:

                                    @archsimkat mod
                                    is done and works fine for me

                                    This is really cool.

                                    Unfortunately the mod seems to only select engineers when using shift+alt, but not when holding down just alt. Idk if it's a conflict, but I tried disabling selection deprioritizer and that didn't change anything. Fix pls? Shift alt is good too for adding to selection, but often you'd want to use just alt if you already have something selected and want to replace the selection.

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                                      Ctrl-K @Ctrl-K
                                      last edited by 25 Sept 2022, 09:36

                                      @genos said in Upcoming developers patch:

                                      @archsimkat I think It would require engine changes, I can only tell that for engies shift+alt is possible through UI

                                      @Blodir

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                                        CheeseBerry
                                        last edited by 27 Sept 2022, 07:12

                                        Oh wow so much good stuff in there 😄

                                        The Control group changes make it finally hassle free to have control groups for factories, this is soo much better than the current/old behavior!

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                                          jcvjcvjcvjcv
                                          last edited by 29 Sept 2022, 09:01

                                          That recall option is a load of cr@p, especially because we still don't have a similar option to eject laggers.

                                          I have won plenty of games where the rest of the team thought it impossible.

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