The integrated ban feature is nice. And the auto kick for shit CPU's. Just don't make typo's.

I once gave it the command to kick everyone with CPU above 20, because the 2nd 0 didn't register on my keyboard and promptly 9 players were kicked xD

@Jip said in Show CPU model ID in lobbies:

I'd like to add to this topic that the benchmark being used and throttling are two different problems that would require to be solved separately.

And, next to that, I'd love to add in that:

• You can fake the benchmark score and therefore probably the CPU model too.
• Considering we are 'power users' according to you, overclocking OR underclocking a CPU wouldn't be taken into account if you show the CPU model. Especially underclocking is a powerful technique for laptops to prevent the throttling you mention. Therefore your new technique is also unreliable, as I believe Pearl is trying to show to you

I thought of a version of 'benchmarking' that would be a lot better: every minute throughout the sim you compare the sim rates of all the players in the game. You get a number between -1 and 1, depending if you are below, on or above average.

At the end of the game this number can be merged with previous games - allowing you to show some form of pattern that is more reliable than the current test. If your CPU does perform on average well then this number would be positive. If your CPU performs averagely poor then this number would be negative.

This is all done locally and stored similarly to how the benchmark is stored. As of writing I am not sure how that is stored - there may be a flaw there.

I think it would help best in combination with the current benchmark, which needs to be retrofitted slightly to check for memory speed because that is in fact the major bottleneck for CPU's if no throttling is happening:

• https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Gap-between-Processor-and-Memory-Speeds-Carvalho/6ebec8701893a6770eb0e19a0d4a732852c86256?p2df

From a practical point of view, @speed2 Do you know if there is a way to retrieve the information shown in the console command ren_ShowNetworkStats? It contains all the information this would require.

That would be nice. Effectively you don't only get a 'skill' rating, but also a cpu rating.

However, the only real thing that counts is people being the slowest below 0.

but if, if, but and what about the 1%? And ....

Stop the bs pls. Ppl that want to play with lag can just ignore it.

I suggested this earlier (to display CPU model) and just as now, the excuses not to do it are ridiculous.

Very simple example; ALL the Intel -U CPU's will throttle. That's simply a given because at full boost (that they use for the benchmark) can only be sustained a very short time before power delivery and heat become a problem. For ppl using laptops where the biggest task is opening a 100 page PDF this is excellent and manufacturers can skimp down on power circuits, cooling and the consumer gets a cheaper, lighter and thinner laptop. Not suited for FAF though.

Bigger games in FAF are ruined by ppl with shitty throttling systems. There should be something in place that would override the shown cpu score for these players. That includes the ppl that turn on their software streaming after running the bench, like lilSidlil.

@Pearl12 said in Show CPU model ID in lobbies:

Only if you have all the CPU models memorized. And even then, are you sure every laptop CPU is a distinct model from a tower? And even then, who is to say that every laptop CPU can't play every game?

Your argument boils down to "perfection is not easily achieved, so we should not improve".

@Uveso said in Show CPU model ID in lobbies:

This was the last issue on github about cpu benchmark:
https://github.com/FAForever/fa/issues/2434

Please read my comment:
https://github.com/FAForever/fa/issues/2434#issuecomment-385811821

This could explain why a CPU benchmark is useless in any cases
We should test memory speed.

The first link; hilarious. A Q6600 user still living in about 2006...

The second link; false. CPU speed is still an issue. Thermal throttling is all over the place. Also ppl load up their CPU with things like VLC, Youtube, streaming. The existence of "fast i7's" does not mean everyone has one.

Also; the older i7's are simply too slow anyway. The cheapest current-gen Celeron (the G5900) is faster than the i7-920 for example. 2nd gen i5 is already faster than 1st gen i7.

@uveso said in Do i cause Desyncs? - how do i properly leave match after dying?:

All quit functions, pressing the X at the top right corner and also [ALT]+[F4] are handled by this function.

But not including typing exit [enter] in the console?

#17080408

https://clips.twitch.tv/AuspiciousSlipperyWalletCurseLit-7Ljo695TZchAqSJk

a0nemanarmy scouts, says "no nuke", as he doesn't see one. I could however see the nuke, but not the T3 arty that he could see.

As we never scouted again, this persisted and he was able to capture it (see twitch link).

@e33144211332424 said in Problems with CPU performance:

That's why I said to run it connected to the outlet so that it won't be starved for energy. Can offcourse also go and play with bios settings and do other stuff to make sure it's all setup for sustaining as high of core clock as possible but considering the OP I think that simply getting cooling pad and running from outlet instead of on battery is the best advice we can give to him. Otherwise he wouldn't be asking how to make his laptop run better.

Even if on grid power; most laptops have a limit somewhere. Even my Workstation Thinkpad with big heatsink and fan will not go to the max boost on the CPU if you also load the GPU a bunch. Even with low temperatures. Probably some internal power supply unit that is used to it's max. If I decrease GPU load, the CPU will again boost higher.

That's why a desktop is so nice, because if you pick the parts right, it's cheap, not noisy and has consistent high performance.

Use a laptop if you have some absolute need for mobile computing. For everything else it's just a stupid trend. Desktops rule.

@jip said in Supporting Shield Generators (Cybran):

What is wrong about Github?

To me it looks like a maze. Just like this forum software is one of the worst there is around.

@jip said in Cybran T2PD having problems targeting and not firing at targets in range:

@thewheelie said in Cybran T2PD having problems targeting and not firing at targets in range:

It feels like the target priorities are way too specific in most situations and thats what fucks it up. ML's and GC's are the perfect example for that when they sometimes have 1/6th of the supposed dps just cause they are doing acrobatics trying to find their targets.

Wonder what it would look like if u only have a few basic priorities set up and nothing too specific

That is something I'm looking into to. The basic priorities should be as simple as possible so that the user knows what to expect. I'll be making the target priorities of all point defenses the same, for example.

Well, the user doesn't expect to turn the turret for 90% of the time while taking fire from everything else on the other side.

I think this whole messed up target priorities thing is why I see less and less and less successful T4 land attacks. Although the buildtime thing also helped with that.

Maybe that is also why it seems the Sera T4 bot is used more often... as it's dead weapon doesn't suffer from the same problems, hehe.

@zlo said inSCOUT "carpeting":

https://youtu.be/J33C02izZgE?t=181 spread move
https://youtu.be/I9XFAimztlc?t=15 dispece move

Do you have a small summary in English

So? This forum is already a maze, Github looks even worse.

@jip said in Tuning the new Auto-fabber behavior:

Fun fact: at the moment the system fails sometimes.

Then why is it still in?
I just had a game... had six T3 massfabs, all doing nothing at all while 265k energy stored and overflowing 10k per sec.

@jip said in Tuning the new Auto-fabber behavior:

I'd need to see replays @ZooDoo4U .

Well, the online replay vault doesn't work for me either anymore, nor my rating graph... but ok, the local vault gives replay ID too, so; #17032129

EDIT: fixed my replay and viewing of rating graph by FAF reinstall.

@zoodoo4u said in Tuning the new Auto-fabber behavior:

Also not sure if there is much discussion about other places where game play is getting worse and worse. Meaning i had a GC standing in a place i forgot about on the map, and about 10 T3 fighting bots hit it and they were standing right next to it, well withing the GC's range, but the GC never fired once and lost it with it only firing well too late...

I've seen the same a lot with sera T2 pd simply not firing on anything while there is a shitton of enemy stuff in range.

@e33144211332424 said in Problems with CPU performance:

No there is, he can get a good cooling pad and run the laptop connected to the outlet which should allow it to run at it's maximum specs. But otherwise it's a laptop so still not much that can be done apart from getting a new one.

Most laptops still won't go to the max boost for long, regardless of temperature.

The integrated ban feature is nice. And the auto kick for shit CPU's. Just don't make typo's.

I once gave it the command to kick everyone with CPU above 20, because the 2nd 0 didn't register on my keyboard and promptly 9 players were kicked xD