Developers patch 3745 - 3748

angelofd347h

Deprecated UI mods

The following UI mods are known to collide with these changes, and are therefore deprecated:

Advanced Camera Stuff (we're integrating the range rings of this mod)

Random UI Improvements

Make a post in this thread if you think some of these features are worth keeping around and we'll discuss whether the UI mod should be re-implemented or that we can integrate the behavior into the game.

Is there some secret to turning on the range rings? As at the moment faf develop forces additional camera stuff off but does not display the shift (or ctrl depending on settings) range rings.

Jip

The range rings are not integrated yet, once they are I'll add it to the post. There will also be (Youtube) clips on some of the new (and old) features of the game so that there's more awareness.

archsimkat

Can I suggest a feature?

Contextual drag selection:

Alt drag box to select only engineers
Normal drag box to select only army
Shift drag box to select everything

Jip

@immortal-d said in Upcoming developers patch:

I can not begin to describe how pleased I am that you make a point of mentioning which mods are integrated or otherwise conflicting. On that note, one of my favorite features from Random UI is the 'easy reclaim', which I did not see mentioned here. Being able to only click reclaim without move orders has been amazing. Is that also being integrated alongside the hard-move commands? (now 'ignore mode').

Yes it is - it is already in! You can set a separate selection threshold when you are in reclaim mode (via hotkey or via the reclaim button in the UI). See also the settings (when you are on FAF Develop).

Jip

@immortal-d said in Upcoming developers patch:

I can not begin to describe how pleased I am that you make a point of mentioning which mods are integrated or otherwise conflicting.

And if there is anything else we can do to make the patch easier to understand / process, do share.

veteranashe

@archsimkat said in Upcoming developers patch:

Can I suggest a feature?

Contextual drag selection:

Alt drag box to select only engineers

Normal drag box to select only army

Shift drag box to select everything

I think that would be really awesome!

Unknow

@jip I think making a guide to where does the mod menus is after integration and how to views the options of the mod after might be good

Ctrl-K

@archsimkat I think It would require engine changes, I can only tell that for engies shift+alt is possible through UI

Ctrl-K

@archsimkat

archsimkat

Nice work 4z0t! Let us know when the mod is up

Ctrl-K

@archsimkat mod
is done and works fine for me

Jip

Updated the post with the new features about recall, mouse sharing and the changes we're making to reclaim labels. See also the second post:

https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4705/upcoming-developers-patch/2

Ctrl-K

One shot, ten deprecated mods

MarcSpector

I liked the changes with reclaim labels. Good job, Jip and his team! You are the best!

veteranashe

I love recall

snoog

You guys are doing awesome work.

One question, does recall require being alive? If not, I think it should.

Jip

It requires you to be not defeated, yes.

KaletheQuick

This recall feature is outstanding!
We can live to fight another day!

Would it possibly have any effect on ranking changes? Nothing big, but the equation evaluates it as if your ranks were closer if you recall instead of die.

This could incentivise people to not stay in a losing battle of attrition forever, or toy with people who don't know they are defeated.

Knowing that it's time to retreat is a good commander quality, and this is kinda diagetically like that.

Perhaps in ranked games there is a signal the enemy is retreating, and it takes a moment to charge.

Anyway, love the feature!

FtXCommando

No, then whole game revolves around manipulating pressing a button in whatever environment it gets pushed into and unfairly punishes new players/discourages playing with new players who have zero reason to expect such a mechanic impacts real rating.

Not to mention the obvious increase in toxicity that is going to follow people losing more rating because their teammate didn’t listen to them, regardless of who was right.

Nex

@jip said in Upcoming developers patch:

It requires you to be not defeated, yes.

So it only counts alive players from a team?
So a dead player can't start a vote?