Do not add new colors - discussion

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I think for color blind presets it should just switch out the colors that are problematic for that preset's color blindness. This way the people using that color can memorize, when somebody sais "red please do x", that it maps to the replaced color from their preset. For this to work, as many colors should stay the same in all presets as possible. I'm not sure if just allowing people to choose from a range of "red" would enough for color blind people.

Alternatively, we could maybe have color replacements to chat, so when you type "/red please do x", the "/red" gets replaced with player's name automatically.

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I am color blind and I very rarely have problems with the colors in the game tbh.

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More colours = better

Type someone's name, or half of it you're referring to someone in a game, don't rely on their colour

Also, where is black?

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POV: me and farm go back to naming ourselves variations of 271A5P3RG3R274

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@yew said in Do not add new colors - discussion:

More colours = better

Type someone's name, or half of it you're referring to someone in a game, don't rely on their colour

Also, where is black?

Combine black with the strategic icons 🙂 .

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FYI for those reading; we plan to investigate the possibility of creating multiple preset color lists that people can choose from for different forms of colorblindness as well as for different aesthetic/contrast preferences. The idea includes having the colors be similar from list to list (so, blue in one list would still generally be blue in another list, just a different shade or smth). Certain technical hurdles would need to be overcome, so this is a possibility, not a definite, but it's something we'd like to implement soonTM.

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Who's exatly "we" btw?
I would like to add my 2 cents,
Making those presets(if they get implemented at all) default is bad,a lot of players got used to what is currently available,please take us in consideration:)

queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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@rezy-noob
The people who plan to investigate the possibility of coding that are the relevant developers; likely being some combination of Jip, myself, maybe 4z0t, maybe Strogoo, etc. Others with relevant coding knowledge are generally welcome to try to help with improvements to the repository. Jip has even been doing instructional sessions and videos that can make it easier for others to get into helping FAF's development.

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I think Resistance is referring to who determines the colors. At the moment that is Emperor and @archsimkat , perhaps @Black_Wriggler wants to give his two cents too in further discussions.

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Per @Jip request, just played a game with a bunch of the new colors: at first they seemed kind of odd but the precise ones used in the game I played earlier today, they look fine! I think they are quite easy to distinguish (the pastel colors really pop); each "blue-ish" shade is varied enough so you don't mix the two in my opinion:

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Yeah, now implement a name over all of the colours so colour illiterate people like me can actually call them out lol.
Or so that everyone is on the same page as to what to call each colour.

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That shade of teal as well as the tyrian purple look really nice

People really don't want to add these? At the very least lets replace some of the uglier colors with them if we have to keep the number low

put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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The problem is as Endrani describes - it is not so much about not adding them than it is about being able to know which word belongs to the color. As an example, in that image there's:

  • two purple
  • a teal
  • a dark teal?
  • yellow-isch
  • no idea what color morax is if the other two are teal
  • a dark green

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Some colorblind info pages for more info about how color blindness works and how you can find the right colors:

general information about colorblindness:
https://jfly.uni-koeln.de/color/

here you can set colors with a color pic tool and see how colorblind people see the color:
https://davidmathlogic.com/colorblind/

here is a web color tool from adobe to adjust colors for colorblind people:
https://color.adobe.com/create/color-accessibility

And if you want to dig deeper and want mathematics to calculate colors for color blindness this is your place:
http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/colorblind/math.mhtml#page-container

Sadly i can't make it by myself because it needs a normal viewing person to validate the colors.
(Red/green blind people not only don't see some colors; we can also see colors differences that normal viewing people can not see.)

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According to this scientific research paper on colors (source: Crayola Crayon company) the color I used is "cornflower" #93CCEA (cir 1958 creation)

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Looks accurate to me!! Cannot wait for the casters like Gyle to refer to people as "CoRnFLowER!" 🍿 🌽

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@jip said in Do not add new colors - discussion:

The problem is as Endrani describes - it is not so much about not adding them than it is about being able to know which word belongs to the color. As an example, in that image there's:

  • two purple
  • a teal
  • a dark teal?
  • yellow-isch
  • no idea what color morax is if the other two are teal
  • a dark green

two purple: "purple" and "violet"
teal/dark teal: "cyan" and "turquoise" (or cyan and teal if that's faster to type)
yellow-ish: mustard
the two pastel colors can be "sky" and "lavender"
"dark green" is fine if we don't have 4 different greens. dark green, light green, lime, that's easy to tell apart

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@morax

Lies, you are clearly an unmistakable shade of periwinkle

put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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3000 games and I’ve literally never heard anybody refer to any of the colors with something more complicated than green, yellow, blue, etc and now people expect FAF players to gather the nuance between violet and purple, lavender, and light green vs lime lol

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Please do not add new colors we have plenty of colors already. Adding more will noticeably reduce game quality and IS NOT a good idea.

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Up to now i have thought the colors were cool, but after playing a few games with them, I personally think some of the blues and purples are too close together. So much so that I would find myself trying to select someone elses units thinking they were mine. I like the idea but def gonna make alot of people unhappy and decrease QoL.