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Well, i am 51 and my global rating after 14 years of plying is 0 (never played a rated game)
I play rts games since 1992 (Dune) and i have no clue how skilled i am. At least it's enough to code an AI for SupCom
Uveso's AI Mod
for Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance Forever v1.5.3697+ This mod supports Nomads.
AI-Uveso <only for FAF> v98 AI-Uveso-Mod-v98.zip
DownloadSize: 246 KB, Unpacked: 1.83 MB Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
How to install:
Unpack the archive.
Copy the "AI-Uveso" folder from inside the Mods directory to:
C:\...User...\My Games\Gas Powered games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\Mods\
Features:
5 new sub AI's:
(For Turtle Play use a adaptive cheat AI with a cheat+build factor of 1.4 on a 10x10 map.)
Unless other AIs it works also well with low unitcap like 250 or even 125 units. ( a unitcap of 700+ is still recommended)
New functions:
Same functionality on maps with and without AI path markers. (Game is slower without markers.)
Option to autocreate AI Map marker incl. printing into the game.log for copy&past (Into map_save.lua)
New target function can handle 2 lakes maps like setons clutch, and has the same functionality with or without AI markers.
Homeless units (no platoon, stucked etc) will now return to the nearest location for new orders.
New eco system does not cancel buildorders if eco is low.
AI detects paragon like buildings for more build power.
Engineers will set to pause while assisting if eco is too low.
New mass extractor upgrade logic. AI spends 40% of its overall income for mass upgrades. (can dynamically change)
AI will first upgrade mass extractors near main base, not in order how they where build.
AI can/will build support factories.
AI supports multifaction build and upgrades. (captured units and All Faction mod)
New nuke AI function for new attack modes with strategical missiles like overwhelm or Jericho bombardment.
Additional build platoons in case a paragon like structure is build. (Mass nukes, Experimantals spam etc)
Reworked AI pathfinding function (Edsger Dijkstra's A Star algorithm) - 400% faster than the original GPG algorithm.
New location range manager is adjusting the influence radius of location managers to prevent overlapping areas.
New engineer transfer function to move idle engineers from expansions back to main base for better build power.
Units will not simply be killed on unitcap, they will be send to the enemy or reclaimed.
Special platton form builder for mods. (Hydrocarbon upgrader for Black Ops etc.)
New buildconditions for platoon builder and former.
New unit category "AMPHIBIOUS" to form amphibious platoons. (All amphibious units get this category injected. Also units from mods.)
New unit category "FLOATING", same as amphibious.
Debug function to validate maps gives warnings if a map has bad AI path marker, mass points etc.
Debug function to visualize AI Pathfinding
Debug function for Platoons. Renames a unit with its Platoon name.
Debug function for Buildermanger to test/view build priorities and Builder logic errors.
Commander AI can upgrade all ACU's incl. Black Ops and Nomad ACU's. (and fight ^^)
Update 10.Oct.2021(v98) -- Fix: compatibility patch for insignificant units test. (needed, If you play FAFdevelop)
Update 05.Oct.2021(v97)
Update 28.Jun.2021(v96)
For older changes see: [...]\Mods\AI-Uveso\Changelog.txt
AI Development Discord Server (AI-Swarm / AI-Uveso / RNGAI / NutCracker AI / DilliAI) https://discord.gg/ChRfhB3
Yes, in version 100 i implement some code to set the AI free. Hopefully it will dominate the world without killing all humans
Updated Mods for FAF:
AI-Uveso <only for FAF> v98 Author: Uveso Features: Adds 5 new sub AI's to the game. (Adaptive, Overwhelm, Rush, Experimentals and Easy.) Compatible with Gameversion: (FAF)1.5.3652+, Nomads This mod supports Nomads. Downloadlink: AI-Uveso-Mod-v98.zip More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/350 Github: https://github.com/Uveso/AI-Uveso Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
AllFactions_FAF_BO_Nomads v4 Author: Uveso Features: Spawns the ACUs of all factions. Compatible with Gameversion: (FAF)1.5.3708+, Nomads This mod supports Nomads. Downloadlink: AllFactions_FAF_BO_Nomads_v4.zip More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/351/all-faction-acu-support-for-black-ops-acu-and-nomads-v4 Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
BlackOpsFAF-ACUs <only for FAF> v18 Based on original version: BlackOps-ACUs v3.5 Author: Exavier Macbeth, Lt_hawkeye, orangeknight Features: Adds 4 ACUs to the game. AI Support: Full AI Support. Compatible with Gameversion: (FAF)1.5.3652+ Downloadlink: BlackOpsFAF-ACUs-v18.zip More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/352/blackopsfaf-acus-only-for-faf-v18 Github: https://github.com/Uveso/BlackOpsFAF-ACUs Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
BlackOpsFAF-Unleashed <only for FAF> v19 Based on original version: BlackOps Unleashed v6 Author: Exavier Macbeth, Lt_hawkeye, orangeknight Features: Adds 52 buildings and 128 Units and 23 Experimental to the game. AI Support: Full AI Support + real AI platoon builder. Compatible with Gameversion: (FAF)1.5.3652+ Downloadlink: BlackOpsFAF-Unleashed-v19.zip More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/353/blackopsfaf-unleashed-only-for-faf-v19 Github: https://github.com/Uveso/BlackOpsFAF-Unleashed Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
BlackOpsFAF-EXUnits <only for FAF> v19 Based on original version: BlackOps Special Weapons v4 Author: Exavier Macbeth, Lt_hawkeye, orangeknight Features: Adds 1 buildings and 6 Units and 1 Experimental to the game. AI Support: Full AI Support. Compatible with Gameversion: (FAF)1.5.3652+ Downloadlink: BlackOpsFAF-EXUnits-v18.zip More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/354/blackopsfaf-exunits-only-for-faf-v19 Github: https://github.com/Uveso/BlackOpsFAF-EXUnits Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
Experimentals Wars <only gameversion 3652+> v1.87 Based on original version: Experimentals Wars V1.8 Author: asdrubaelvect Features: Modifies or adds 14 buildings, 25 Units and 7 Experimentals to the game, and veterancy upgrades to all tech 1 land units. AI Support: Full AI Support. Compatible with Gameversion: (FAF)1.5.3652+ Not compatible with Mod: XtremeWars! Downloadlink: ExperimentalWars(3652)-v1.87.rar More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/355/experimentals-wars-1-87-for-gameversion-3652-faf Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
Ninja Reclaim Drones <for all gameversions> v18 Author: Uveso Features: Adds 6 units and 5 buildings to the game. AI Support: No. - AI is not allowed to build ninja drones. Compatible with Gameversion: (vanilla)1.5.3599, (steam)1.6.6, (FAF)1.5.3652+, Nomads This mod supports Nomads. Downloadlink: NinjaReclaimDrones(AllGameVersions)-V18.zip More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/356/ninja-reclaim-drones-v18-for-all-game-versions Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
Nuclear Repulsor Shields <for all gameversions> v21 Based on the idea from the mod: Nuke collide (2007) Author: Uveso Features: Adds 12 buildings to the game. And Nukes collide with shields AI Support: Full AI Support. Compatible with Gameversion: (vanilla)1.5.3599, (steam)1.6.6, (FAF)1.5.3652+, Nomads This mod supports Nomads. Downloadlink: NuclearRepulsorShields(AllGameVersions)-V21.zip More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/357 Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
Orbital Wars <for all gameversions> v1.37 Based on original version: Orbital Wars 1.01 Author: asdrubaelvect Features: Adds 16 buildings and 16 Units to the game. AI Support: Full AI Support. Compatible with Gameversion: (vanilla)1.5.3599, (steam)1.6.6, (FAF)1.5.3652+ Downloadlink: OrbitalWars(AllGameVersions)-v1.37.zip More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/358/orbital-wars-1-37-for-all-game-versions Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
Quantum Resource Generators <for all gameversions> v17 Author: Uveso Features: Adds 5 buildings to the game. AI Support: Full AI Support. Compatible with Gameversion: (vanilla)1.5.3599, (steam)1.6.6, (FAF)1.5.3652+, Nomads This mod supports Nomads. Downloadlink: QuantumResourceGenerators(AllGameVersions)-V17.zip More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/359/quantum-resource-generators-v17-for-all-game-versions Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
Smart Tactical Missiles <for all gameversions> v21 Author: Uveso Features: Modifies 5 buildings in game. Compatible with Gameversion: (vanilla)1.5.3599, (steam)1.6.6, (FAF)1.5.3652+, Nomads This mod supports Nomads. Downloadlink: SmartTacticalMissiles(AllGameVersions)-V21.zip More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/360/smart-tactical-missiles-v21-for-all-game-versions Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
Total Mayhem <for all gameversions> v1.37 Based on original version: Total Mayhem v1.21 Author: Burnie222 Features: Adds 52 buildings and 129 Units and 23 Experimental to the game. AI Support: Full AI Support. Compatible with Gameversion: (vanilla)1.5.3599, (steam)1.6.6, (FAF)1.5.3652+ Downloadlink: TotalMayhem(AllGameVersions)-v1.37.rar More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/361/total-mayhem-1-37-for-all-game-versions Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
Wyvern Battle Pack <for all gameversions> v4 Based on original version: Wyvern Battle Pack v2 Author: Brandon Potter Features: Adds 23 buildings and 36 Units and 15 Experimental to the game. AI Support: Full AI Support. Compatible with Gameversion: (vanilla)1.5.3599, (steam)1.6.6, (FAF)1.5.3652+ Downloadlink: WyvernBattlePack(AllGameVersions)-v4.zip More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/362/wyvern-battle-pack-v4-for-all-game-versions Downloadable from Vault: No.
XtremWars <for all gameversions> v1.4 Based on original version: XtremWars 1.0 FAF featured. Author: asdrubaelvect Features: Modifies or adds 54 buildings, 113 Units and 25 Experimentals to the game. AI Support: Full AI Support. Compatible with Gameversion: (vanilla)1.5.3599, (steam)1.6.6, (FAF)1.5.3652+ Not compatible with Mod: Experimentals Wars! Downloadlink: XtremWars(AllGameVersions)-v1.4.rar More info: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/363/ Downloadable from Vault: Yes.
greetings Uveso.
(Last Update: 11.Oct.2021)
This was the last issue on github about cpu benchmark: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/issues/2434
Please read my comment: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/issues/2434#issuecomment-385811821
This could explain why a CPU benchmark is useless in any cases We should test memory speed.
@blackyps said in AIs in ladder:
The AI absolutely must be not cheating or we teach horrible misconceptions to new players how many units they can reasonably expect after a short time.
A cheating AI means, it has a higher mass energy output from recources and a higher build rate. And there is the Omni View option that removes the fog of war for the AI.
If you turn the cheat/buildfactor to 1.0 and switch Omni view off, then you have a non cheating AI even if you choose AIx.
We (all other AI developers) don't use any code to get data that a normal player can't access. So the AI can only see what a normal player can see, and its not using any other glitch/cheat. It follows all non cheat rules that we have on FAF.
(Also all AIs are uploaded to Git Hub and you can view & check the code any time)
Update 20.Jan.2021(v89)
@Valki
This is the PR from Speed where he patched the UI Resize to the game: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2994
Here you can easily see where the ui scales come from and how its used:
This line gets the size value: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2994/files#diff-f09652486472504df9d483a2d6d1377cb1574b2a83db62c5c3a61a4d3cb0ec13R35
and here we use the new size in a UI element: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2994/files#diff-f09652486472504df9d483a2d6d1377cb1574b2a83db62c5c3a61a4d3cb0ec13R86
This way you should be able to patch your mod with UI scaling function.
But this does not mean, we are not optimizing the AI or gamespeed. These are the latest AI patches. Read the patchnotes to see whats already done:
AI Patch V1: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2468 AI Patch V2: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2566 AI Patch V3: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2660 AI Patch V4: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2734 AI Patch V5: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2802 AI Patch V6: (AI pathfinding "A*(Star) search algorithm".) https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2915 Fix for AI Base templates https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2918 AI Patch V8: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/3083
(Patch V8 is only available on the FAF develop version.)
Update 08.Feb.2021(v91)
I like the assist function. Not only the commander can assist, although unable to build it himself. Also Mantis, Harbinger Mark IV and Siren Class are able to assist. (i am not sure how many player use that)
So, unassist after building the storage would be my wish
@meatontable
Using a benchmark list was my first attempt to compare the speed results. The same CPU in a different PC has different results.
Just as example, the Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz tested with Prime: over 700 different results: https://www.mersenne.org/report_benchmarks/?exp_date=2016-01-01&64bit=1&exover=1&exbad=1&exv25=1&exv26=1&specific_cpu=4379147
Update 10.Oct.2021(v98)
@triple-x1
we started a thread about it 14 days ago; please continue there:
https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2572/
@Xathos
i just want to thank you for your feedback and support!
@kalethequick said in Increase Ladder Unit Cap:
Wow, concerns with AI are holding back this merge? That's crazy.
Well, the AI is part of the game and gamechanges should also respect the AI.
And if you thing this is crazy; i needed almost 1 year in 2016-2019 to repair the ingame AI. All issues where from patches that don't take the AI into account.
Just as example; new units like the T3 mobile AA introduced in 2014 where not added to the AI, platoontemplates where not patched when units change their tier like T3/T4 artillery, AI was not able to use/build support factories ... and so on.
Much work only because people think, AI can be done later.
Last but not least, the autolobby.lua that was changed in the PR from FtXCommando to patch the unitcap is the same script we use for testing the AI. Do you see the irony?
warning: SND: Error playing cue 2 on bank 5 [music] XACT: Invalid arg
Looks like your sound card is not set to stereo only, or maybe its using some kind of sound enhancement.
Try this: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/796/i-can-t-hear-some-of-the-audio-or-other-sound-issue-what-should-i-do
@Katharsas
You are absolutely right, it would be much better to use larger tables if we want to measure memory throughput speed. But that was not want i aimed for. I wanted to measure the RAM latency speed. (reaction time)
Compared to the internet, we don't need fast download speed, we need a fast ping.
After programming some lines that should reflect the memspeed i figured out that the result on my 4 PC (playing in LAN) was not reflecting the real ingame speed.
After doing it by book, i started to tweaked the memtest in a try and error manner to match at least the result of my own PCs. Thats what i finally released and what i can't do better. (at least not with only 4 PCs)
Also screenshots of benchmarks are mostly unusable becasue they only test throughput. And real time measuring like CPU clock/speed in not possible with RAM (at leat i dont know any program that can show the actual data speed of a RAM module while executing a game or programm)
If you want to make a better benchmark then you need to do several test updates, ask people how the result is and adapt the benchmark as long as people are unsatisfied.
I investigate the benchmark issue since 2018:
Postby Uveso ยป 16 Feb 2018, 19:04 Maybe i am the only one with this opinion, but CPU power ist not the mainproblem.
Why we have absurd fast CPU's for Supcom and still lag!?! While having some PC here i did some testing.
Surprise surprise, it's RAM speed.
For example; i changed from DDR3 to DDR4 RAM (I have a board with DDR3 and DDR4 slots). The simspeed was increasing from +5 to +6 I got also good results when overclocking the HT-link (AMD -> connection between Northbridge and RAM) or overclocking the RAM itself (low CAS Latency, 4xBank Interleaving, reduced refresh cycle(yeah, i know, i know... ))
Maybe we should try to not waste too much LUA memory in huge arrays (Memory use from big unit models, LOD settings etc are not influencing the game speed)
Some benchmarks to compare: 18328 QuadCore Q8400 @ 2,5GHz 18543 FX-8150 @ 4,2GHz 18545 PhenomII-X4-955 @ 3,8GHz / 200MHz 18547 PhenomII-X4-955 @ 3,8GHz / 211MHz 18559 PhenomII-X4-955 @ 4,0GHz / 200MHz 18576 PhenomII-X4-955 @ 4,2GHz / 205MHz 18585 PhenomII-X4-955 @ 4,1GHz / 200MHz NB 2200 18589 PhenomII-X4-955 @ 4,0GHz / 200MHz NB 2400 18595 PhenomII-X4-955 @ 4,1GHz / 200MHz NB 2400 18645 i7 6700K @ 4.4GHz 18708 i7 4790K @ 4.4GHz
And some words about the memspeed and "overclocking" with lower benchmark sesults:
by Uveso ยป 07 Mar 2020, 04:06
ZLO_RD wrote: Edit: lol this test is kinda meaningless xD. 3000 beats 3200 with same timings. 2133 has good timings and no latency data, so can't compare results.
Yes, this happens if ppl dont know how a PC works and try to overclock. If you change the speed of your memory then you also need to set the speed from your front side bus (mainboard clock) This is needed to set the clock for the mainboards north bridge.
North Bridge is the memory manager/controller:
Unsync memory/NorthBridge clock settings will lead to very low memory latency: You can see here that you will lose about 20% memory speed (Additional Async Latency Offset)
So its no surprise to have fast benchmark results with 3000 clock because 2133 and 3200 are set unsync to North Bridge. Have in mind we need fast memory "latency" for SupCom, we don't need a high memory clock or high memory throughput.