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    Sladow-Noob @Morax
    last edited by 7 Mar 2022, 21:37

    @morax That's interesting, always thought it's the other way around aka lower ranked ones get high ranked maps if they play with us. I think that indeed explains why I keep up getting the same maps over and over again

    Inactive.

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      kdrafa91
      last edited by 7 Mar 2022, 23:17

      played 4v4
      Win
      Game was not rated: unknown result

      Is this normal on ladder?

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        BanthaFodder
        last edited by 10 Mar 2022, 18:41

        Setons is the perfect 4v4 map.

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          Morax @kdrafa91
          last edited by 11 Mar 2022, 17:09

          @kdrafa91 said in Matchmaker Pool Feedback Thread:

          played 4v4
          Win
          Game was not rated: unknown result

          Is this normal on ladder?

          No, but this is also a thread about the maps used in the pools. I would recommend discussing this in the "I need help" forum (and its sub forums) or the #technical-help channels in the FAF discord:

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            TheVVheelboy
            last edited by 12 Apr 2022, 20:12

            Addition of adaptive lone Eagle should be imo reconsidered by the TMM team due to bad texturing and terrain sculpting which doesn't allow players to tell what is a hill or not at first glance, instead requiring to zoom in close and even free-cam to find the reason why engineers aren't capable of reaching the reclaim and mexes. It literally costed me 2 idle engineers in the beginning of the game due to how poorly the elevation and impassable terrain is conveyed on this map which imo is inexcusable.

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              Exselsior
              last edited by 12 Apr 2022, 21:17

              Yeah I played one game on there and my build on it got cancered thinking I could walk to the hydro behind me. Was a very gassed start because I couldn’t tell the terrain wasn’t passable. Maybe that’s a me problem though

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                Morax
                last edited by 14 Apr 2022, 10:20

                @E33144211332424 @Exselsior FYI:

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                We will be removing it from future pools until the author updates the map.

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                  Nooby
                  last edited by 1 May 2022, 12:52

                  The Bjarg map is not one i like, very misleading unreclaimable wrecks that should be removed from the map, or map removed from pool

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                    Rowey
                    last edited by 1 May 2022, 13:19

                    that's just part of the Maps aesthetics it take you 1 game to know that certain wreck arent reclaimable + if you just one quick Ctrl+shift you can clearly see that they have no mass value

                    "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

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                      Nooby
                      last edited by 1 May 2022, 14:06

                      No other map I have ever seen has this. It is just needless, unfriendly and unintuitive. Seems very silly to introduce this mechanic for a single map. The it takes 1 game argument does not hold up.

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                        Morax
                        last edited by 1 May 2022, 14:10

                        There was a large amount of feedback regarding visuals of the map being difficult to read as well, so it likely won’t be in folding pools until it is updated a bit.

                        I will mention this to the author as well.

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                          XerxesGRONDNoob
                          last edited by 2 May 2022, 16:38

                          I would enjoy a reduction of the percentage chance that I get a map gen pool map whilst searching in the competitive mode, I have been experiencing, through bad luck or whatever other factors are at play, 3/4 map gen matches in succession. Seems a bit much. I thank you all, much love

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                            Dukes
                            last edited by Dukes 5 May 2022, 18:13 5 May 2022, 18:07

                            Hi, was playing 2v2 ladder and got the map Xellaria. The map is way too dark to play on and is really difficult to see the terrain changes. Also with fog of war and radar pings it basically blends into the background, When the game ended and put us into obvs view it was actually a lot brighter and easier to see. any chance it could be made to that light level permanently

                            sorry, just seen the map is already being removed for next pool ect

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                              Morax @XerxesGRONDNoob
                              last edited by 9 May 2022, 18:54

                              @xerxesgrondnoob said in Matchmaker Pool Feedback Thread:

                              I would enjoy a reduction of the percentage chance that I get a map gen pool map whilst searching in the competitive mode, I have been experiencing, through bad luck or whatever other factors are at play, 3/4 map gen matches in succession. Seems a bit much. I thank you all, much love

                              So I have been playing ladder quite a bit recently and have not noticed this, myself. 3/4 matches sounds really, really high. Has this issue persisted for you?

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                                Morax @Dukes
                                last edited by Morax 5 Sept 2022, 19:23 9 May 2022, 19:18

                                @dukes said in Matchmaker Pool Feedback Thread:

                                Hi, was playing 2v2 ladder and got the map Xellaria. The map is way too dark to play on and is really difficult to see the terrain changes. Also with fog of war and radar pings it basically blends into the background, When the game ended and put us into obvs view it was actually a lot brighter and easier to see. any chance it could be made to that light level permanently

                                sorry, just seen the map is already being removed for next pool ect

                                UPDATE: When was this map in the pool? I do not see it in any pool within the past few months??

                                Just checked and yes: it is absolutely awful to look at the very dark textures... I will make a note to the team and reduce its aesthetic score until addressed so it does not show up again.

                                Thank you for your report.

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                                  Plasma_Wolf
                                  last edited by 6 Jun 2022, 17:02

                                  Just had a game on Moonlight swamps. Very dark texture, so it's impossible to see the height differences, and also that there's a lake in the middle. Checked the reclaim, which is imbalanced under water, and also not symmetrical on land.

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                                    snoog
                                    last edited by 7 Jun 2022, 00:53

                                    How often is the maplist changed? I've noticed a lot of variety lately, including quite a few maps I've never even seen before like Adaptive Fate and Adaptive Sin. Also Salem Bay is pretty neat, wish that came up more.

                                    That said, I had a match on Re Requisite FAF Version and honestly wouldn't mind never seeing that map again. Way too much for a 4v4 and way too much empty space. Such a slow and boring map.

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                                      Plasma_Wolf
                                      last edited by 10 Jun 2022, 20:37

                                      I thought the map list for 4v4 had 15x15 maps for the generated map? I just got a full-on 20x20 map (Corner spawns). Are there weird settings for the map generator? The map I got was on neroxis_map_generator_1.8.5_zsjc2pa7g4kpm_baia

                                      Coincidentally, I never want to see a 20x20 corner-to-corner map again 😞

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                                        HerpesHank
                                        last edited by HerpesHank 6 Nov 2022, 19:33 11 Jun 2022, 18:54

                                        i can attest to not being able to easily tell moonlight swamps had a lake in the center, i know its kind of in the name but it doesnt look like one.

                                        has there been any conversation about a veto system? i know there are maps in every pool that people dislike. cant avoid them forever but i think a properly implemented system would help mix up the variety a bit, especially in 4v4 where the <500 rating maps are more likely to be selected in the 0-1000 brackets.

                                        sidenote; i didnt see pina coladas in the june 4v4 map pool post, but when i logged in and looked at the map pool it was there. was kind of annoying when i was hoping that map would be pulled this month. im sure its a great map with plenty of options at higher ratings, but <1000 its nightmare.

                                        thank you to the matchmaking team, i deeply appreciate the efforts made into making this all work. been enjoying learning a game i never bothered to learn. just wish it was more populated so us americans didnt have to be up so early for some TMM games. looking forward to future adjustments.

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                                          FtXCommando
                                          last edited by FtXCommando 6 Nov 2022, 19:56 11 Jun 2022, 19:56

                                          Been conversations about vetos since 2014. Pina Coladas is trash at high level, I thought it was there for new players 4head.

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