@thomashiatt said in Winning is Detrimental:

Attain enlightenment by training your mind to not wish to play the game.

In virtual realms of wonder and delight,
I find myself entwined in endless fight,
A world of strategy, where I lose all sight,
Of time and space, as hours flee by like flight.

My mind is trapped in this digital thrall,
Where quitting's not an option, never at all,
For every victory, a new challenge calls,
And I am helpless, under its grasp, it enthralls.

The mouse and keyboard holds me captive, day and night,
As I embark on quests, both bold and bright,
But alas, my obsession takes its toll,
And leaves me drained, yet still I cannot fold.

Oh, how I long for freedom from this spell,
To break free from this digital hell,
But fear of failure grips my heart so tight,
That I cannot tear my eyes away from light.

So here I sit, in this virtual land,
Addicted to the thrill of the game's command,
Trapped in a cycle that I cannot stand,
Yet unable to resist, I succumb to its demand.

@sladow-noob said in Winning is Detrimental:

@spikeynoob Clown.
You're welcome.

In Sladow's shadow, no one could find their place,
For he was so full of himself, he left no space.

He thought himself the center of all attention,
But others just saw him as an obnoxious mention.

His arrogance made them want to turn away,
And leave him in his own self-centered sway.

Oh Sladow, with your inflated head,
Your self-importance, it never will be dead.

For though you may think yourself divine,
To others, you're just a laughing line.

Oh Sladow, oh Sladow, such a pesky fellow,
With an inflated head and a know-it-all yellows

He inserts himself into every situation,
And always assumes his opinion is the foundation.

Of your many flaws, the biggest one I find
Is how you always butt in, with your uninvited mind.

• A true story

Hey guys i dont like these changes

Since the recent update, or at least very recently, the client is requiring vast amounts of power and CPU for some unknown reason. As a result it's causing the game and the UI to lag very bad.

What's going on?

This goes for TMM. It also applies to all 4 of the ladder systems.

The more games you win, the more rating you get, the more rating you get, the higher the probability becomes you will not find a match, the higher the probability of not getting a match becomes, the less games you get to play, the less games you get to play, the less fun you have as a whole.

To conclude, the more you consistently win in the long run, the more detrimental it is to you as a player who wishes to play the game.

If irony was a sentence, that was certainly it.

@magge said in Why?:

@goodgamepleasety

Maybe the issue is related to the ICE-Adapter high CPU usage bug. In case you or other readers are not following the Discord thread, I will quote the following:

Ravandel said in Discord

An alpha test client has been released with a rolledback ice-adapter version. the devs would like you guys to try it out, and let us know if the problem does not appear at all with this alpha test version.

This in order to figure out if it is caused by "recent" changes in the ice-adapter or by something else. If it does happen with the alpha test version also then those changes can be ruled out.

Note: you can install this alpha version alongside your normal install, and you can play games with other people running the normal client as well.

Link: https://github.com/FAForever/downlords-faf-client/releases/tag/v2024.5.1-alpha-2

I would be grateful if you could test the Alpha 2 client and provide feedback to help narrow down the issue.

I came across this thread in dc yesterday.

Also yesterday I had 2 consecutive client updates, and I'm now using the 2024.5.1 - alpha - 2 version of the client. I will see if I notice any improvements to my situation.

More colours = better

Type someone's name, or half of it you're referring to someone in a game, don't rely on their colour

Also, where is black?

Until this update, I was able to join lobby's and play the game. With this new update to 2025.2.0 I can no longer join lobby's and play the game. Also I can no longer connect in tmm.

For custom lobby's I am stuck on the connecting screen. So whatever the update entailed, has made things worse.

Anyone have the same problem, or know what the problem is?

5x5 maps are vile. Nobody likes them except for a tiny insignificant minority. 99% of 5x5 map games only use a fraction of what the entire game has to offer. It's like asking your friend for a game of chess, but before you start the game, you take every single piece off the board except for the kings, 2 pawns each, and maybe a single knight each. Then you reduce the size of the board to just 12 squares and attempt to have a fun strategic, and interesting game.

Until this update, I was able to join lobby's and play the game. With this new update to 2025.2.0 I can no longer join lobby's and play the game. Also I can no longer connect in tmm.

For custom lobby's I am stuck on the connecting screen. So whatever the update entailed, has made things worse.

Anyone have the same problem, or know what the problem is?

The issue seems to be more severe now with this new client update.

5 seconds after opening up the client, the chat disconnects lol

Firstly no I won't post logs.

Secondly, everyone I speak to has the same thing. FAF chat constantly gets disconnected, at least several times per hour?

Why?

Nobody wants endless discord channels to join. What's wrong with the main faf server? It already has the looking for a game channel and other channels for finding people to try get a game.

1v1 being dead on all rating levels has nothing to do with communication. Most players don't enjoy 1v1's in this game, period. That's why it's dead.

Gyle has a family and most likely a life. He doesn't really care about this game. He probably only makes a cast some random Sunday afternoon when he's bored and has nothing else to do.

sign up 1489

Sure it may. But this is no different than any other custom hosted game with 10+ players right? Which is probably half of all games anyway.
Not sure I follow an argument for taking away players from 3v3/4v4. You can argue that introducing these formats took away from 1v1 massively, but here they are . I think people would play 5v5 or even 6v6 queues. I think at least half of all games consist of games with 10+ players (gap/custom mapgens). At least it would be an option for people to queue for anyway.

Might I also suggest some fun tmm queues like 2v1, where a higher rated player is matched with 2 lower rated players, or 3v1/3v2/4v2 or something.

Are there any plans or thoughts about 5v5, or even 6v6 tmm being introduced?

Would be nice to get more 4v4 games but 3v3 tmm has had a big impact on it. I wonder if a 5v5 tmm would then have an impact on 3v3 so we get more games with more players.

Just a thought.

@Deribus said in 15minutes of gaming?:

@xclkvnspoijfoisn said in 15minutes of gaming?:

Call it what you will. Eco is half the game. You don't see "eco players" calling out aggression as "aggression simulator". Or "rush sim" when someone is fulfilling the 15 minute prophecy.

I am calling what I will. But you're the one asking "why don't people let me eco sim?", you can't then flip it into aggressive players having some kind of superiority complex when you are the one questioning the way others prefer to play.

I am not asking why people don't let me "eco sim". I am asking why the majority of players for most of the time think playing a game for 15 minutes is more fun than play a game for 60 minutes. Which is not the same as, please let me "eco sim". Regardless of whether one chooses to "eco sim", in my mind, objectively speaking, playing a game for 60 minutes is in most cases inherently more fun than playing a game for 15 minutes.

@xclkvnspoijfoisn said in 15minutes of gaming?:

Which is the t1 phase, which is "dynamic" as you say. A long game will include way more elements of what the game has to offer than any almost any 15 minute game. Which is to say is more dynamic.

No, a more dynamic game is by definition less stable. A less stable game is less likely to turn into a long game. You can have dynamic, aggressive, games that last a long time because no side is able to gain a decisive advantage. That is different from both sides deliberately deciding to extend the game. That is what leads to less dynamic gameplay.

You just nullified your own point. There is no clear correlation between time playing in game and "dynamic" play. And the same is probably true for "less stable" game and time spent in game.

Not to mention too how you're defining a dynamic game. What exactly is this? By your admission, the degree to which a game is stable or not? And how is game stability measured? A chaotic opening can and does go into a long game. Although many players give up after the slightest of disadvantages.

I don't know why you conflate my desire for long games with, both sides "deliberately" extending the game. These 2 are separate. It's quite rare for 2 teams to conspire to deliberately extend the game. There is always someone trying to win as fast as possible.

@xclkvnspoijfoisn said in 15minutes of gaming?:

I value my time, just as much as the next person. And I would value watching a 4 hour high quality, bloated service catering to my fandom of that movie, as opposed to many good unrelated and potentially obscure short movies.

And many players, specifically the ones you're asking about, have no interest in a bloated game. They are interested in an action packed (even if shorter) game. You might disagree, but your opponents are under no obligation to play the game you want them to.

@Sainse said in 15minutes of gaming?:

@xclkvnspoijfoisn said in 15minutes of gaming?:

@Sainse said in 15minutes of gaming?:

long dynamic games are the best.

That makes no sense. And you too fail to see the larger point.
Long game does not = turtle game.

Well you failed to see a basic point that I didn't claim "Long game does not = turtle game", I even directly stated "long dynamic game" is a thing. My point was that dynamic games tend to end faster, so most of them is relatively short as a result.

You could just read other people's messages carefully before claiming they fail to see something

If you paid attention to the entire threat you would see I have carefully and diligently responded to every single response.

Please read my original post though first before you make 2 sentence replies. They are hardly worth the effort to respond to, let alone read.