Apologies for taking a while to post this. I simply forgot I saw this and wanted to share some findings. No opinions, just raw data of usage with both clients.

TLDR:

I did not see an excess of 1 GB of memory usage in my time using the most recent version of the Java client

Python is using approximately 30% memory when compared to Java

Java client takes ~20 seconds to load up *
Python client takes ~8 to load up *

Python client takes ~17 secs to pull history of 1v1 for me
Java client takes ~24 secs to pull history of 1v1 for me

.* load up means start up the program and at a point where nothing else is loading

Steps to reproduce:

1) Run the client for at least 1 hr
2) Play 2 games
3) Join 4 different channels using the "/join" command
4) Right-click 5 different players names and view replays, look at statistics, etc.
    a) For the python client, I went to a different level and viewed each replay statistic
        section as shown in the video below

Python Client

Java Client

~~{going to add this later, did not have time for game right now}

Note: without a game was at ~550 MB memory (significantly more than Python)~~

Further Observations:

The Python client has a superior set of statistical data including action heat maps, icons for actions issued in a timeline of the game, etc etc

Python client has NEVER crashed for me. The java client tends to start getting a memory leak and crashes after about 45 mins to an hour for me.

Video of Java Client Demo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQBR456aJu8

Video of Python Client Demo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhXAQcaz548

Java Client gathering all 1v1 History for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq1qqTSLDro

Python Client gathering all 1v1 History for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxBRTWU-Xhk

I am going to be very honest: the hq models are cool and all, the Aeon one is quite lacking.

However, every game update as of recent has some ill side effects (obviously uninteneded) and are causing things like OC to break, extremely frequent desyncs among other issues I have not tracked properly.

I have to say, as someone that left for a long time, and came back due to recovering, and not having much to do, I am really disappointed in the FAF leadership for allowing these changes to happen.

We all know we get what we get, but this is getting absurd that you guys cannot restrain yourselves. The game was working quite fine when I first came back, and now as of the past several months I get upset any time I see a game patch.

I do not believe anything any of you say anymore. For years people told me that the java client was needed because python would not work with matchmaker. That was obviously not true due to lack of knowledge, or refusal to work with it.

Anyone working on game updates, you have lost all credibility. I sincerely hope the leadership considers changing their allowance of updates. You can try to tell me all you want outside factors are causing this, but because it is so well known that other matters were not, I just will not believe you.

It is entirely understandable Farms and others are posting this kind of thing, ignoring your structured threads because of this.

Morax - 1700

@KnownSniper what happened? hahahaha

@hybrid_ yeah the last U1900 I played, Strydr started it an hour later, and I actually got to play ONE warm-up match and came in 2nd only to nuggets.

It makes a huge difference to actually be up and awake to play this game rather still in blurry "I want to go back to sleep" state.

Thank you

Maybe just an hour? Getting up at 8 AM, eating food, being coffee'ed up by 9 AM without touching the game is insanely harsh. i don't think I can play because it is Easter weekend, so don't do anything for me.

9 AM start time for east coast US :XXXXX

Morax 1740

Morax 1680

Hello, everyone,

It never occurred to me that bringing a game like this into continuity was possible until everyone involved with the upkeep and leadership of FAF was brought to my attention via everyone's favorite streamer, Gyle. I thought I was watching a "suggested YouTube video" for some supp comm match from years ago. When I looked at the upload date and saw "2013" it was a true shock. How did this guy upload a match when the game lost official support?! It was thanks to many different people - too many to list - who kept my favorite game going.

Good and bad times aside, it was a pleasure working with everyone, hope I brought a net positive to the community during my time here. Unfortunately, life has caught up with me and after taking an extended break this past year, it became apparent that it was time to move on.

Given that, I have already discussed with Balthazar [Creative Team Lead] and Stormlantern [Mathcmaking Team Lead] that I am giving them the rights to use the maps I have created as they see fit. As times change and things move on, the style and play evolve, and believe it would be best that people with more time committed to the community manage that.

The world kind of is rough right now, but soon in time things will hopefully improve, and I plan to donate to the events FAF produces in time again. I am sorry I have not done that in recent, but financial uncertainty across the board has made me hesitant to spend on anything like a game community for the time being.

Best of luck and well wishes to everyone going forward.

Well whatever is going on, it is far more noticeable with this one command.

@ftxcommando said in Pathfinding Issue? Time Stamps and Images to Show:

half a second

Ah so that's why I'm going mad... Everything else is seemingly instant.

@jip said in Pathfinding Issue? Time Stamps and Images to Show:

it works in 1 click for me. There's a 5 tick delay before it is applied, but you can continue doing what you were doing. The selection is stored the moment you issue the callback

What is a "5 tick delay" in layman terms?

@Jip so I have been using the "ctrl-assist" and no problems since, but for some reason I have to click engineers or comm a few times to get it to work?

What's up with that?

I don't know how to share other than creating a video but it's super frustrating to have to click something so much as it really distracts.

This is an issue where the texture files are missing and or not compatible.

If it is happening to you alone it's likely your game files are corrupt and you'll need to restore them.

Let me load it up and see if it happens to me as well.

Interesting, however it is happening a lot more lately...

Edit: Here is replay: https://replay.faforever.com/21242419

@Jip starting around 3:30 mark and throgh 3:45, you can watch the expanding engineers to grab hydros. At around 3:40 there is a reclaim action on the hydro from the engineer in front, then the second engineer bumps the first, then the orders just seem to simply disappear even though they are in queue.

I have seen this happen with a commander or unit getting stuck on some reclaim, but what is going on here has happened to me a number of times recently in addition to what @silentNoob showed here: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/6808/degrading-game-responsiveness-over-time-factory-queue-in-particular

It could be a separate issue but still.... it worries me.

Cannot figure out how to take a screen shot while order queue is visible as it "snip it" tool is refusing to work with the shift key held, but here:
 
https://ibb.co/album/Df913C

@noc said in Legend of the Stars 2023:

Avatars are as follow's:

1st

2nd

3rd

4th

If people are interested, I can make some new avas. Looks like the same ones are being used that I made 3-4 years ago so thought I would offer to update a bit.

Yeah, got a game here where my 2 engineers expanding to build hydros just STOPPED for no apparent reason:

https://replay.faforever.com/21242419

Never seen this kind of thing before until recently.

I, too, have been suspicious but no evidence such as presented by the preceding posts. This is a bit alarming as this has not been quite this bad before...

These tourneys take a long time to prepare for and set up so I imagine the next one will be at least a few months away, but I am hoping to participate.