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    A Former User
    last edited by 13 Jan 2024, 20:03

    Just a reminder, that we still have this:
    alt text

    You won't attract new players this way.

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      ThomasHiatt
      last edited by 13 Jan 2024, 20:07

      If someone is on the FAF website they have been attracted already.

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        magge Global Moderator
        last edited by 13 Jan 2024, 20:32

        The last thread related to that was this one: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5469/factions-text-for-web-site-need-suggestions

        Unfortunately, there wasn't any further productive discussion about descriptions because, for whatever reason, the conversation veered off track into negativity. I assume @Femboy had other priorities and chose not to engage with the toxicity.

        Join a FAFtastic Team

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          maudlin27 @magge
          last edited by 13 Jan 2024, 21:02

          @magge Suggested wording was identified, but Femboy lacked capacity at the time and we weren't able to get the development environment working on my machine either so I couldn't put through the change

          https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5628/website-faction-text-vote-for-preferred-wording/5

          M27AI and M28AI developer; Devlogs and more general AI development guide:
          https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v71-devlog
          https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v150

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            snoog
            last edited by 13 Jan 2024, 21:50

            TBH, just use ChatGPT at this point. That is pretty bad.

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              CaptainKlutz
              last edited by 14 Jan 2024, 09:52

              "Beings from beyond our sphere of existence, the Seraphim are more than simply alien. Command an army of unique and powerful weaponry out of reach of the human factions, and combine fearsome technology with tactical unit compositions to overwhelm your opponents."

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                IndexLibrorum Global Moderator @CaptainKlutz
                last edited by 14 Jan 2024, 10:51

                @captainklutz Aaand we got a winner.

                "Design is an iterative process. The required number of iterations is one more than the number you have currently done. This is true at any point in time."

                See all my projects:

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                  A Former User @CaptainKlutz
                  last edited by 14 Jan 2024, 11:00

                  @captainklutz And for the rest 3 factions please.

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                    Zeldafanboy
                    last edited by Zeldafanboy 14 Jan 2024, 17:07

                    No offense, but most of these attempts are really bad because they try to make the faction sound epic in a forced cringey way. Just explain the background of the faction and their gameplay strengths. Saying that the Seraphim are “unique,” “powerful” and “fearsome” is meaningless. And what faction doesn’t use tactical unit compositions to win? That’s just the basic strategy of the game…

                    put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                      CaptainKlutz @A Former User
                      last edited by 14 Jan 2024, 19:08

                      @melanol Stalwart defenders of the old human values, the UEF find strength in unyielding rigidity. Their conventional but deadly weapons are capable of delivering destruction at any range while withstanding significant counter-fire from their foes.

                      The Aeon are zealots enhanced by technology from beyond normal human grasp. To succeed as one requires mastery of not only the harmony of their standard ground forces, but also sowing discord with their variety of specialised units.

                      Fighting a vicious war for their freedom, the Cybran are one with their machines, producing some of the most brutally efficient weaponry in the galaxy. However, their arsenal is far from being just direct, as their stealth and subterfuge capabilities are second to none.

                      Beings from beyond our sphere of existence, the Seraphim are more than simply alien. Command an army of unique and powerful weaponry out of reach of the human factions, and combine extraterrestrial technology and tactics to overwhelm your opponents.

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                        IndexLibrorum Global Moderator @CaptainKlutz
                        last edited by 14 Jan 2024, 19:12

                        @captainklutz The aeon one feels like it missed the mark. How about something that highlights their love for precision, range, and high alpha dmg?

                        "Design is an iterative process. The required number of iterations is one more than the number you have currently done. This is true at any point in time."

                        See all my projects:

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                          snoog
                          last edited by 14 Jan 2024, 19:20

                          Here, using GPT-4.

                          United Earth Federation (UEF): The United Earth Federation strives to unite the galaxy under a single banner, offering stability and order through a human-centric government. They boast powerful and versatile conventional military technology, exemplifying strength and resilience in their war machinery.
                          
                          Cybran Nation: The Cybran Nation, composed of cybernetically-enhanced humans, fights for the liberation of their kind from oppression. Their technology focuses on stealth and electronic warfare, enabling them to launch surprise attacks and manipulate the battlefield with advanced robotics.
                          
                          Aeon Illuminate: The Aeon Illuminate, followers of an alien philosophy known as 'The Way', seek to enlighten the galaxy and bring peace through understanding. Their technology is advanced and exotic, harnessing the power of quantum energy and focusing on precision and agility.
                          
                          Seraphim: The Seraphim, an enigmatic and powerful alien race, are the newest contenders, seeking retribution and the spread of their own zealous beliefs. Their technology is highly advanced and alien, focusing on overwhelming firepower and robust, imposing units, often surpassing the other factions in sheer power.
                          
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                            veteranashe
                            last edited by 14 Jan 2024, 19:36

                            There is faction descriptions that come with the game, are they not good enough?

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                              ThomasHiatt
                              last edited by 14 Jan 2024, 20:52

                              Did you guys miss the part where they said they already found good wording and there's just nobody on FAF capable of copy pasting the text to the website?

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                                IndexLibrorum Global Moderator @ThomasHiatt
                                last edited by IndexLibrorum 14 Jan 2024, 21:20

                                @thomashiatt Yes I did miss that.

                                How do we not have someone that can edit the website?

                                "Design is an iterative process. The required number of iterations is one more than the number you have currently done. This is true at any point in time."

                                See all my projects:

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                                  waffelzNoob
                                  last edited by 15 Jan 2024, 12:44

                                  Just don't try to attribute gameplay traits to a faction because they just don't work. The only one that does is cybran being stealthy

                                  frick snoops!

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                                    Nex @waffelzNoob
                                    last edited by 15 Jan 2024, 13:13

                                    @waffelznoob
                                    UEF units have more hp (generally)
                                    Aeon has more specialised units / their units are missing weapons/features that comparable units of other factions have.
                                    Seraphim have more multi-purpose units

                                    There are things your can attribute to the factions, but the impact they have on how the faction plays differently from the others is questionable

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                                      BlackYps
                                      last edited by 15 Jan 2024, 13:51

                                      Maybe you should first discuss what you want to have in the text, like generally, before you iterate on the wording.
                                      Should it just be lore flavor, or unit design, or gameplay implications?

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                                        nine2
                                        last edited by 15 Jan 2024, 14:36

                                        First I think you need to work our what the point of the page is. Is it to convert rts fans to supcom? Or is it to convert steam fa players to faf?

                                        After that pick text that helps with that goal. What's the goal

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                                          arma473 @nine2
                                          last edited by 15 Jan 2024, 14:41

                                          @blackyps @nine2 We did have that discussion

                                          https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5469/factions-text-for-web-site-need-suggestions

                                          We should come up with better descriptions for the four factions.

                                          Before we can do that, we need to decide what purpose and tone this section of the web site should have and who its intended audience is.

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