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    The current pre-release of the client ("pioneer" in the version) is only compatible to itself. So you can only play with other testers. Please be aware!

    Some good news about Team Matchmaking (TMM)

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    • nine2N Offline
      nine2
      last edited by

      sounds great

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      • AskaholicA Offline
        Askaholic @archsimkat
        last edited by

        @archsimkat I’ll let @FtXCommando answer those questions as he is responsible for those decisions.

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        • FtXCommandoF Offline
          FtXCommando
          last edited by FtXCommando

          Likely to have 3 ratings
          1v1
          2v2
          3v3+

          Global has significantly more data (9/10ths of faf games are outside of ladder) which means the system has more information to go off of for its initial placement of players. I’d rather not have only 1/10th of FAF have placement data. The initial rating of players will also involve a sigma increase of 250 which should be more than enough of an adjustment for the vast, vast quantity of FAF players even if they never played a 2v2 before.

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          • archsimkatA Offline
            archsimkat
            last edited by

            Fair enough, I didn't realize that only 1/10th of FAF players have enough ladder games to give them usable placement data. Also, 2v2 ladder will be fullshare right? What about 3v3/4v4?

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            • LenkinL Offline
              Lenkin
              last edited by

              This will be a breath of fresh air for the FAF. I will be happy to popularize TMM on streams and treat possible bugs with understanding.

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              • FtXCommandoF Offline
                FtXCommando
                last edited by

                Currently I plan on every teamgame using full share.

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                • MrBeastM Offline
                  MrBeast
                  last edited by

                  Good news, time to search my own blood mate for 2v2's

                  DONT BELIVE BH HE IS LIEING

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                  • speed2S Offline
                    speed2
                    last edited by

                    soooooooo GW soon™?

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                    • MoraxM Offline
                      Morax
                      last edited by

                      In the words of Mando,

                      "This is the way."

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                      • H-masterH Offline
                        H-master
                        last edited by

                        Great work guys. I hope a lot of underplayed maps get more played this way.

                        Check out my maps here:

                        Madness 1 - 10

                        https://forum.faforever.com/topic/480/h-master-s-maps

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                        • J Offline
                          JazzFunkNoob
                          last edited by

                          Is there already a draft for the Mappool? I suppose you @FtxCommando will be in charge of that as well?

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                          • FtXCommandoF Offline
                            FtXCommando
                            last edited by

                            Yes I’m responsible for map pools.

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                            • D Offline
                              darkym
                              last edited by darkym

                              will there still be a "global rating" outside of TMM, and if not how can "setons players" or the like keep on playing the maps they like with fair/balanced teams?

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                              • FemtoZettaF Offline
                                FemtoZetta
                                last edited by

                                "We are NOT deleting your global rating. Custom games will continue to function exactly as they do now (provided there are no bugs)."

                                Reading is hard.

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                                  FunkOff @FtXCommando
                                  last edited by

                                  @FtXCommando Please for the love of FAF, include mapgen

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                                  • archsimkatA Offline
                                    archsimkat
                                    last edited by

                                    and crazyrush!

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                                    • FtXCommandoF Offline
                                      FtXCommando
                                      last edited by FtXCommando

                                      Actually I'm strongly against gimmick maps in map pools because they break my personal principle of a player being able to spawn in with full grasp of game mechanics and being able to iron out a strategy as well as a guy that has 1000 games on the map. Obviously experience has a lot of value and it's impractical to really expect such players to be competitive against one another, but the point is that everything is equal when you enter the game and survey what your options are.

                                      If I had a map that had one random crazyrush mex in the corner, then there's no real reason for you to realize that's a mechanic until it's possibly too late to adjust anything about your build to account for it. Same with the crazyrush map itself. You have no idea if these mexes are infinite, you have no idea if buildings block the script, you might have had no idea that the mexes even expand and blocked it with pgens at the start. It's BS as a player, like if every FAF map had 0 natural reclaim except this one map that is put into a pool every 3rd month.

                                      Of course it is put in tournaments, and that's mostly because people for whatever reason enjoy playing it. I just rationalize it as people knowing the make exists beforehand so it's a fair game since they should be expected to enter the tournament with a knowledge base of the maps in it.

                                      When it comes to map gen, it's the same criteria I had before. It needs to meet the same minimum baseline of quality that I require manual maps to reach.

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                                      • AzraaaA Offline
                                        Azraaa @speed2
                                        last edited by

                                        @speed2 said in Some good news about Team Matchmaking (TMM):

                                        soooooooo GW soon™?

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                                        • KaletheQuickK Offline
                                          KaletheQuick @Morax
                                          last edited by

                                          @Morax said in Some good news about Team Matchmaking (TMM):

                                          In the words of Mando,

                                          "This is the way."

                                          Is Princess Rhianne a joke to you? 😐
                                          Heretic.
                                          -.-

                                          You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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                                          • KaletheQuickK Offline
                                            KaletheQuick @FtXCommando
                                            last edited by

                                            @FtXCommando Would some kind of partial full share be possible? Where a portion of the killed players units are killed instead of transferred? Something to make killing a player slightly more impactful, if possible.

                                            You must deceive the enemy, sometimes your allies, but you must always deceive yourself!

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