Aeon sucks. Here's why:

1. The Aurora is hot garbage because of the paper armor and slow speed. It's the only T1 tank which dies en-masse to single bomber and medusa hits. The Medusa is faster, longer ranged, and costs only 36 mass but one shot can obliterate 4+ Aurora costing 52 mass apiece. This wouldn't be so bad if bombers didn't mass-OHKO them too. Did I mention they also always miss their first shot? And high alpha is supposed to be one of their advantages...
2. The fervor sucks. Only advantage is best raw DPS against structures, which is a poor trade off for being completely useless against units.
3. The beacon (T1 frigate) sucks. It's the most expensive, can't use full DPS forwards, has no AA, and has very low HP. Only advantage is modest anti torpedo.
4. The shard (T1 AA boat) sucks. Despite being a dedicated AA boat, it's AA is worse than Cybran Frigate AA. I've watched this miss literally every shot against T2 torp bombers. It's useless.
5. The simmer (T1 bomber) sucks. It has the lowest damage of all T1 bombers. 4 bombs are required to kill a UEF T1 pgen or mex. UEF bomber only takes 2 passes to kill an Aeon T1 pgen or mex.

Now onto other tiers:
6) The T2 transport sucks. Lowest carrying capacity of all T2 transports. Can only carry two T3 units.
7) The T3 bomber sucks. Trades enormous AOE nerf for minuscule damage buff. As a result, it's no better against structures than Cybran T3 bomber but far, far worse against units and ACUs. Also, Aeon T3 bomber lacks a secondary weapon.
The T2 shield generator sucks. Expensive but with a tiny area of effect. Can barely cover a T2 pgen next to it. Very hard to cover nearby mex with it. Can't be upgraded, either.

Okay here's how we can fix it:

1. Aurora needs a bit more armor. 140 --> 155 should do it. It'll survive a medusa shot or 3/6 cybran T1 bombs hitting it. Medusa needs a nerf, too, because it's OP as hell.
2. Fervor is probably fine as long as Medusa is nerfed.
3. Beacon should get a small HP buff (1850--> 2000) and anti-torp buff, paired with a small buff to Aeon T1 subs.
4. Shard should have muzzle velocity increase so it can actually hit stuff.
5. Shimmer bomb should track and/or have 2 second stun against T1/T2 units. Lower damage is fine if it's a guaranteed hit against T1.
6. Some advantage, such as perhaps being faster, should be given to T2 transport.
7. T3 bomber shot should track so it doesnt miss.
8. Shield gen should have greater range and/or reduced cost (480 mass --> 360 mass)

Originally in Supcom, T1 transport could carry ACUs. This was only removed because it was too easy to draw somebody by comm bombing them. (This was way back when ACU death nukes did a full 70k damage against all targets, including other ACUs.)

Given that the nuke problem has otherwise been avoided, we should undo this pointless change. Simplify transport logic and let T1 transports carry ACUs.

Astro simplifies the game in many ways:

1. Single, flat corridor between bases
2. All team members together
3. Base strongly protected on three sides
4. Almost all mex are within starting position

This eliminates a great deal of complexity in the game and strongly incentives a turtle/sim city play style as it is easy for even a noob to repel attacks.

Certainly I, for one, appreciate all the effort that's gone into faf so far (and I am excited for TMM!)

These are troll videos. The spider guy intentionally walks the spider into the middle of the horde. The Megalith guy doesnt shoot the tightly groups clusters of engineers. If either were microed competently, the XPs would win by a long shot.

Other more technical reasons why T1 is not OP take longer to explain and I won't cast pearls before swine.

Any recommendations?

@keyser said in Let's talk telemazer:

you can tele snipe with sera acu too

I saw this for the first time yesterday.

So can we add teleportation options for Aeon and UEF?

@KaletheQuick I agree that the biggest issue is only one faction has a useful ACU teleport. I'm not sure it's balanced because it's so good. It can clearly lots of things and isn't limited to ACUs. Telemazer threatens bases too.

FAF is only as boring as the maps it's played on. Consider these attributes of maps that contribute to the viability of turtle style gameplay:

• Well defended spawn position (Near map edges or impassable terrain)
• High proportion of mex near spawn position
• Low proportion of mex away from spawn position
• Few mex in total (Most turtly map: Flat with 1 mex per player at spawn and no other mex.)
• Same team spawn positions close together
• Opposite team spawns far apart
• One or few avenues for ground attack (only have to defend 1 spot = very turtly)

Maps that are turtly: Astro crater, Gap
Maps that are not turtly: White Fire, most maps by Chosen

Everybody knows what telemazer is. Is this balanced? Thoughts?

+10% hp is not a rebalance, lol.

Also destroyers are fine. They are amazing ships and are great are killing anything on the water.

Team: Myself and Sheikah (1700 + 1500)

Certainly I, for one, appreciate all the effort that's gone into faf so far (and I am excited for TMM!)

@Arran said in All the reasons Aeon sucks - T1 worst of all:

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Your post is interesting. I'm not sure that the simple numerical analysis tells an interesting story. Some of the numerical analysis is incorrect. Consider the T3 bomber analysis: Because all T3 bombers on one-shot T2 mex and because mex are often placed near other mex, Cybran's bomber is often capable of hitting 2-4 T2 mex in a single bomber, but Aeon is rarely able to do this (other bombers are in the middle.)

I do accept, however, your proof that the Shard sucks, but I knew that already.

This ui pause was done intentionally? I noticed that I cannot select units using clicks or give move orders after someone leaves, until I click on a different window and click back (I usually play FA in windowed mode)