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Weekly Discussion #29 - What would you like to see in the game next?

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    Mach
    last edited by Mach 17 Feb 2023, 10:26

    how about being able to see how many missiles our teammates' smds have loaded and what % they are on, idk if there is already a ui mod for this if anyone knows

    also that suggestion to be able to see friendly intel ranges in general

    and a suggestion of my own: while you have nuke launcher/submarine selected, it renders ranges of all known enemy smd on the screen, before you say it is op, this is kind of already possible but:

    • you have to look at entire map for smds first
    • select a t3 engi (if you have one in first place)
    • place smd over every enemy smd to check its range
    • remember all the ranges you just saw while using a nuke launcher/submarine

    and it's not like being able to tell where you can nuke at a glance is some game breaking mechanic, it is something that the game needs more of, convenient ui

    possibly equivalent system for tml/tmd selection

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      TheCodemander @IndexLibrorum
      last edited by TheCodemander 17 Feb 2023, 12:33

      @indexlibrorum said in Weekly Discussion #29 - What would you like to see in the game next?:

      @deribus I'd like to speak to your manager about bullying please.

      He said Helen Keller, not Karen Keller

      @mach said in Weekly Discussion #29 - What would you like to see in the game next?:

      • place smd over every enemy smd to check its range
      • remember all the ranges you just saw while using a nuke launcher/submarine

      and it's not like being able to tell where you can nuke at a glance is some game breaking mechanic, it is something that the game needs more of, convenient ui

      possibly equivalent system for tml/tmd selection

      @Jip ringmod merged when?

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        CheeseBerry
        last edited by CheeseBerry 18 Feb 2023, 15:12

        While we are talking about intel, I'd love it if the edges of shield bubbles could be made visible even if the shield gen isn't scouted.
        Mostly this causes problems when you are shooting something that only looks unshielded, because the bubble doesn't render, but actually is shielded. E.g. this:

        PDs look unshielded:
        Screenshot_74_cut.png

        Surprise, they actually are shielded:
        Screenshot_75.png

        Note that this is not like many of the other intel quirks that fix themselves after a couple ticks. If you don't have intel on the shield gen, the bubble will just never be visible to you.

        (I'm assuming this, like many intel related things, happens in the engine and is hence unfixable 😦)

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          Mach
          last edited by 18 Feb 2023, 15:17

          this seems the same as being able to see weapon effects from weapons that you didn't scout yet, which already happens

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            Jip
            last edited by 18 Feb 2023, 16:49

            When a mesh is or is not shown depends on the center of the mesh. If that is in vision then it is shown. This is of course not ideal for shields 🙂 There are two parts of a shield:

            • The shield mesh, what you see and collide with
            • The shield unit, that provides the shield

            What we could do is:

            • (1) Make the shield mesh always visible, regardless of intel
            • (2) Make the shield mesh (temporarily) visible when they are damaged
            • (3) Give temporary intel surrounding the unit that provides the shield as you damage the shield

            (3) is also applied for beam weapons, last time I checked

            A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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              deletethis
              last edited by deletethis 18 Feb 2023, 16:58

              Some more EQ fixes implemented before 2030.

              edit:

              @Jip for posterity

              Personally, I'd like to see mobile factories building while moving.

              I'd also like to see sub actually go deep(er) but that's way more of a balance change and I like to think it will be part of the full navy pass that's coming eventually.

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                Jip
                last edited by 18 Feb 2023, 17:02

                @deletethis feel free to make a list of what you'd like to see, EQ was of before my time

                A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                  TheVVheelboy @Jip
                  last edited by 18 Feb 2023, 17:24

                  @jip
                  Imo option n1 is out of question as it's gonna be a very hard nerf to any small firebases that otherwise would be unscouted. Not to mention now always knowing what is shielded and what is not.

                  As for which of the 2 and 3 I would prefer it's hard to say, but option 2 seems quite decent as it still gives you idea that there is a shield there but it won't make it so you get intel what kind of shield it actually is and where exactly it was placed.

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                    TheWeakie
                    last edited by 18 Feb 2023, 19:05

                    Actually the most important thing in the universe.

                    Make it so that when you queue for matchmaker the game doesn't instantly crash when you have another game open

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                      CheeseBerry @Jip
                      last edited by 18 Feb 2023, 19:18

                      @jip said in Weekly Discussion #29 - What would you like to see in the game next?:

                      What we could do is:

                      • (1) Make the shield mesh always visible, regardless of intel
                      • (2) Make the shield mesh (temporarily) visible when they are damaged
                      • (3) Give temporary intel surrounding the unit that provides the shield as you damage the shield

                      (3) is also applied for beam weapons, last time I checked

                      (1) and (2) might have some weird side effects, but if (3) is already in the game for beam weapons, and doesn't cause any major problems there, it seems like a decent solution to try out.

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                        Zeldafanboy
                        last edited by 18 Feb 2023, 21:32

                        2 seems ideal to me

                        put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                          Mach @Jip
                          last edited by 18 Feb 2023, 23:41

                          @jip said in Weekly Discussion #29 - What would you like to see in the game next?:

                          @deletethis feel free to make a list of what you'd like to see, EQ was of before my time

                          one I would suggest is mobile factories such as carriers being able to build units while moving


                          also if shield mesh is always visible, would it be visible at all times or only when the shield is on? it seems it could give free intel of when enemy shield drops that way, which wouldn't be good

                          afaik for beam weapons you don't get intel over unit itself, only the beam, you can see it coming from where the unit is but not the unit itself, if you could see the same for shield that would be the best imo, otherwise solution 2 seems best, so we can at least see what happened to the projectile

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                            Blade_Walker @Jip
                            last edited by 18 Feb 2023, 23:46

                            What we could do is:

                            • (1) Make the shield mesh always visible, regardless of intel
                            • (2) Make the shield mesh (temporarily) visible when they are damaged
                            • (3) Give temporary intel surrounding the unit that provides the shield as you damage the shield

                            (3) is also applied for beam weapons, last time I checked

                            (2) Seems best , and also what I expect would happen.

                            I wonder if beam weapons could be changed from (3) to (2) as part of this for consistency ?

                            Also oblig:

                            https://youtube.com/watch?v=eh7nhTf_2m0&feature=shares&t=32

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                              TheWeakie @Deribus
                              last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 21:01

                              @deribus said in Weekly Discussion #29 - What would you like to see in the game next?:

                              There's a separate keybind for select all idle engineers excluding ACU

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                              Where is it boss?

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                              • DeribusD Offline
                                Deribus Global Moderator
                                last edited by 26 Feb 2023, 21:14

                                Oh whoopsie. Turns out it is I who has the reading comprehension of Helen Keller

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                                  Zeldafanboy
                                  last edited by 27 Feb 2023, 00:44

                                  Hellen Keller wrote like 10 books

                                  put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                                    veteranashe
                                    last edited by 27 Feb 2023, 00:55

                                    Didn't Hellen Keller invent bralle?

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