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What do you think about this mass-farming blueprint?

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    A Former User
    last edited by A Former User 21 Dec 2022, 00:09

    Fits inside ED4, self-suffecient (spends approx as much energy as it produces), right outer angles allow to adjoin the outer fabs if necessary, you don't lose too much if explodes. Generates approx 100 mass.

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      Femboy Promotions team
      last edited by 21 Dec 2022, 00:48

      "you dont lose too much if it explodes" dude you lose way too much if that shield goes down just once lol, the mass fabs will kill everything at once lol

      FAF Website Developer

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        waffelzNoob
        last edited by 21 Dec 2022, 02:34

        One mass fab dies (350-500 hp?) and its all gone. You're better off spreading t2 mass fabs across the map without any shielding

        frick snoops!

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          Blade_Walker
          last edited by 21 Dec 2022, 07:09

          @Deribus hey where is our weekly thread for favourite templates ?

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            A Former User @Femboy
            last edited by 21 Dec 2022, 08:21

            @javi Actually, the shield and pgens survive, and you get half of the fabs' wrecks to rebuild on top.
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              A Former User @waffelzNoob
              last edited by 21 Dec 2022, 08:22

              @waffelznoob This blueprint means you don't have enough space to spread unshielded fabs.

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                waffelzNoob
                last edited by 21 Dec 2022, 14:25

                then placing one or two of these templates should be fine. if your opponent gets t3 arty or novaxes its gonna be too hard to protect all of them

                frick snoops!

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                  Cyborg16
                  last edited by Cyborg16 21 Dec 2022, 15:41

                  Ignoring energy, that's 36.2k mass to generate 104 mass which takes 348s (just short of 6 mins) to pay back. (In comparison, a ringed T3 mex is 5400 mass which takes 200s to pay for itself, but you wouldn't expect to beat that.)

                  If you did the same with T3 fabs (6.5, yeah...) the payback time is 398s but you get about 1500 excess power (maybe more if I remembered adjacencies incorrectly). Still less efficient with a spare T3 pgen thrown in.

                  But don't forget that it'll take a while to build, especially with engineers bumping around each other to get out the way all the time.

                  Otherwise, this much mass gets you half a T3 arty or a Megalith or Soulripper or 17 strats.

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                    FtXCommando
                    last edited by 21 Dec 2022, 16:31

                    Mass storage ringed t3 mass fabs take 267 seconds to pay off.

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                      Deribus Global Moderator @Blade_Walker
                      last edited by 22 Dec 2022, 03:16

                      @black_wriggler said in What do you think about this mass-farming blueprint?:

                      @Deribus hey where is our weekly thread for favourite templates ?

                      Probably never. 95% of people would say PD + walls or ringed mass storage. Templates just aren't useful enough

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                        Blade_Walker @Deribus
                        last edited by 22 Dec 2022, 04:42

                        @deribus
                        Yes but they don't necessarily have to be good, just ones that players have come up with and like to use

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                          SpikeyNoob Global Moderator
                          last edited by 22 Dec 2022, 06:07

                          Here is my recent idea for a mass fab grid. The goal was to be able to fit as many fabs as i could without them being able to chain react.alt textalt text

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                            Blade_Walker
                            last edited by 22 Dec 2022, 06:50

                            @SpikeyNoob Sorry but that grid will still chain ! The T2 fabs need to be further apart

                            Try something like this for a single grouping

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                            You can fit 3 under a non-Aeon T3 shield without them chaining each other :

                            T3T2Fabs.png

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                              SpikeyNoob Global Moderator @Blade_Walker
                              last edited by 22 Dec 2022, 07:12

                              @black_wriggler try it your self, only 1 3x3 block will explode at once

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                                Blade_Walker @SpikeyNoob
                                last edited by Blade_Walker 22 Dec 2022, 07:18

                                @spikeynoob ah you are using the shields to block the low explosion damage from the fabs

                                it would be a shame if you were to power stall in-game though...

                                also this looks to be Cybran-only the other factions shields are much bigger

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                                  CheeseBerry
                                  last edited by CheeseBerry 22 Dec 2022, 07:42

                                  Why are you making mass fabs if you are scared of them blowing up though?

                                  Imo, if you need to preemptively shield your mass fabs, you should have made bois instead

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                                    QuietJoy
                                    last edited by 22 Dec 2022, 19:56

                                    Cybran shields are a meme unfortunately and I say that as a Cybran main. I'd say cybran mass farms need some hives in there also, as a minimum consideration.

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