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    ComradeStryker
    last edited by ComradeStryker 20 Dec 2022, 19:49

    I would like to pitch in an idea for the name of this new unit - if it makes it in.

    The Severance.

    Seems like it would fit with the Cybran theme.

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    ~ Stryker

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      Zeldafanboy
      last edited by 20 Dec 2022, 20:09

      This except it should be called the Xiphos because quite a few Cybran units have Greek names (Zeus, Medusa, Hoplite, Cerberus technically Megalith)

      And the Greek named units tend to be high ranged skirmishers for each tech level (T1: Medusa, T2: Cerberus and Hoplite, T4: Megalith)

      So a T3 unit named the Xiphos (Greek for a type of short sword) would fill in that gap neatly imo

      put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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        ComradeStryker
        last edited by ComradeStryker 20 Dec 2022, 20:48

        "Gastraphetes" would fit better, in that case.
        Or "Hoplite"... but, since Hoplite is already taken...

        A "Gastraphetes" was a type of bow used to fire from afar, and since this unit fires from afar...


        "Xiphos" is a sword... made for close-range combat.
        Cool name for a unit, though.


        "Phalanx" would fit, too.


        ~ Stryker

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          Zeldafanboy @ComradeStryker
          last edited by 20 Dec 2022, 21:39

          @comradestryker

          I feel like that name is a bit too long, but I think Xiphos can still fit because this is an anti shield unit, and a xhiphos was a short sword which meant you could more easily get it around an opponent’s shield than a spear. (Basically the only reason it would be used, swords were always sidearms)

          Phalanx sounds a bit generic imo but it’s fine

          put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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            MazorNoob
            last edited by 20 Dec 2022, 23:39

            Peltast?

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              Mach @ComradeStryker
              last edited by 21 Dec 2022, 03:05

              @comradestryker said in Absolver:

              "Phalanx" would fit, too.

              just fyi phalanx is already a name for UEF tmd weapon

              I suggest ballista since trebutchet is already a name for cybran t3 mobile arty, and pretty sure ballista shot would punch right through a shield just like this unit is supposed to do

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                ComradeStryker
                last edited by ComradeStryker 21 Dec 2022, 04:44

                Where exactly do Cybran names derive from?
                They obviously have a root in Greek names, but what else?

                I'm thinking mainly because some units have strange names, at least I think so.
                IE: Soul Ripper, Mermaid, etc.

                And some don't even make the slightest sense to me:
                IE: Salem, Brick, Bouncer, etc.


                ~ Stryker

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                  Mach
                  last edited by Mach 21 Dec 2022, 05:58

                  well bouncer was added by FAF as all t3 mobile aa were, it doesn't exist in vanilla FA

                  and some names do make no sense but many units (esp. experimental) were named after FA developers, such as mavor, scathis etc, even wagner is named after a developer and it isn't even an experimental for example, so maybe it's from there for some of those too, otherwise idk

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                    ComradeStryker
                    last edited by ComradeStryker 21 Dec 2022, 06:21

                    The Tagada : Cybran T3 Mobile Shield Disrupter.
                    😁


                    ~ Stryker

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                      Chenbro101
                      last edited by 21 Dec 2022, 07:36

                      How about some sort of Greek witch:
                      Hecate
                      Circe

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                        Zeldafanboy @Chenbro101
                        last edited by 21 Dec 2022, 13:48

                        @chenbro101

                        Circe is really good I vote for that one

                        put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                          A Former User
                          last edited by 23 Dec 2022, 15:07

                          I wonder how will stationary shields be able to hold against Cybran now, with Vipers already making tacdef useless.

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                            Zeldafanboy @A Former User
                            last edited by 23 Dec 2022, 15:59

                            @melanol

                            Vipers are mediocre against firebases after the TMD targeting improvements, it's just that the other MML are garbage. You need a clump of like 10 vipers to start chewing through a firebase at any reasonable speed and half of that can get deleted by just one T2 arty hit or some T1 bomber sweeps

                            put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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                              Fichom
                              last edited by Fichom 24 Dec 2022, 03:54

                              Another brainstorm, maybe turn Fire Beetles into Amp Beetles, and have them also detonate on shields and disable them - 1.5k dmg to shields.

                              Or add T2 'Amp Ram' unit that has personal stealth, and it attack shields from somewhat small range - just big enough to stand outside Sera T3 shields (so you don't get the odd behaviour of it going inside a shield and then not doing anything xD).

                              On the topic of names... As already mentioned, original names are kinda all over the place, but two main themes are 'animals/mythical beings' (Mole, Mantis, Medusa, Rhino, Viper, Fire Beetle, Cerberus, Dragon Fly, Cormorant, Barracuda, Siren, Mermaid), 'professions' (Hunter, Hoplite, Loyalist, Deceiver, Disruptor, Guardian, Corsair, Renegade, Revenant, Wailer, Jester, Prowler, Soothsayer) and 'greek-stuff' (Zeus, Myrmidon, Olympus, Salem, Gemini, as well as some stuff from the previous 2 categories) which is also kinda all over the place in and of itself. Despite what many are arguing, there isn't actually any cohesion. You could say 'greek', but if anything there are more animals. But so are there plenty in say UEF.

                              Whatever the name, what I'm not liking is the current trend of 'a thing that breaks the shield', because they kill shields, but in reality, the purpose of the shield is more akin to walls and other fortifications. So yeah, if we are going the direction of defense-neutralization and in particular 'siege weapons', "Trebuchet" is already taken; "Ram" kinda sounds lame (though it does have the double source of both animal and siege weapon), "Scorpio" sounds very good to me (though again it was more of an anti-infantry weapon, rather than anti-fortification), "Catapult" doesn't seem fitting.

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                                Chenbro101
                                last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 08:01

                                Anything ever come of this discussion? Anybody making a demo unit for this?

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                                  TankenAbard
                                  last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 17:39

                                  At this point in the balance structure, I kinda hope not.

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                                    FtXCommando
                                    last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 20:16

                                    Idea wasn’t liked by balance team so it died.

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                                      Noble_Ice @FtXCommando
                                      last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 10:03

                                      @ftxcommando we dont have a balance team, we have despots. it's easier to throw out cybran faction.

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                                        ComradeStryker @Noble_Ice
                                        last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 17:25

                                        @noble_ice said in Absolver:

                                        @ftxcommando we dont have a balance team, we have despots. it's easier to throw out cybran faction.

                                        Hey, hey... No need to get mad at them.
                                        They're fans of the game just like you and me.
                                        They understand the game far better than any one of us.

                                        If they make a change, they share a reason why, and if it doesn't work out, they revert it.


                                        Also, the Cybran faction has had some serious improvements over the last few balance patches. (2023)

                                        Some notable ones:

                                        • Salem range & HP increase
                                        • ACU Regen increase + Nano upgrade
                                        • Deceiver stealth range increase
                                        • Brick & Wagner torpedo damage increase
                                        • Brick range increase
                                        • SoulRipper Rework

                                        etc. etc. etc.

                                        You can find the patchnotes for everything else here. 🙂

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                                          TankenAbard
                                          last edited by 30 Nov 2023, 20:52

                                          The brick and Salem range increase are the two I've felt the most.

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