Absolver
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If absolver had 5 less range then snipers kill them and their addition is basically pointless except against UEF.
Cybran has no mobile shields, it is infinitely easier to kill their special counter unit with means outside of the land sphere (air mostly) than it is with snipers.
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Why not make Loyalist EMP explosions do heavy damage to shields?
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@tankenabard your loyalists will get hit by the snipers before they get out a single shot…
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@javi Good point.
Adding a shield breaker to the Cybran roster does make sense as a faction flavor, but removes some of the unique fit for purpose nature of the Aeon because someone else has the same tool. The same tool that isn't used very much.
That makes me think, is something wrong with the shield breaker is it currently exists? Lots of questions.
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Only becouse Ftx already going to do something to change with cyb, I vote for any - YES.
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Idea. Change the Aeon absolver to have a similar fire rate to the Serenity, instead of 1 shot every 2 seconds make it more like 1 shot every 10 seconds and increase the damage it does to shields accordingly so it has the same DPS.
Theoretical Cybran absolver (Dissolver?), have the 1 shot every 2 seconds of the original Aeon absolver as the high fire rate keeps in line with Cybran trends. No hover, possibly amphibious like a Wagner or Engineer.
Theories of how this could play out?
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I would like to pitch in an idea for the name of this new unit - if it makes it in.
The Severance.
Seems like it would fit with the Cybran theme.
~ Stryker
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This except it should be called the Xiphos because quite a few Cybran units have Greek names (Zeus, Medusa, Hoplite, Cerberus technically Megalith)
And the Greek named units tend to be high ranged skirmishers for each tech level (T1: Medusa, T2: Cerberus and Hoplite, T4: Megalith)
So a T3 unit named the Xiphos (Greek for a type of short sword) would fill in that gap neatly imo
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"Gastraphetes" would fit better, in that case.
Or "Hoplite"... but, since Hoplite is already taken...A "Gastraphetes" was a type of bow used to fire from afar, and since this unit fires from afar...
"Xiphos" is a sword... made for close-range combat.
Cool name for a unit, though.
"Phalanx" would fit, too.
~ Stryker
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I feel like that name is a bit too long, but I think Xiphos can still fit because this is an anti shield unit, and a xhiphos was a short sword which meant you could more easily get it around an opponent’s shield than a spear. (Basically the only reason it would be used, swords were always sidearms)
Phalanx sounds a bit generic imo but it’s fine
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Peltast?
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@comradestryker said in Absolver:
"Phalanx" would fit, too.
just fyi phalanx is already a name for UEF tmd weapon
I suggest ballista since trebutchet is already a name for cybran t3 mobile arty, and pretty sure ballista shot would punch right through a shield just like this unit is supposed to do
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Where exactly do Cybran names derive from?
They obviously have a root in Greek names, but what else?I'm thinking mainly because some units have strange names, at least I think so.
IE: Soul Ripper, Mermaid, etc.And some don't even make the slightest sense to me:
IE: Salem, Brick, Bouncer, etc.
~ Stryker
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well bouncer was added by FAF as all t3 mobile aa were, it doesn't exist in vanilla FA
and some names do make no sense but many units (esp. experimental) were named after FA developers, such as mavor, scathis etc, even wagner is named after a developer and it isn't even an experimental for example, so maybe it's from there for some of those too, otherwise idk
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The Tagada : Cybran T3 Mobile Shield Disrupter.
~ Stryker
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How about some sort of Greek witch:
Hecate
Circe -
Circe is really good I vote for that one
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I wonder how will stationary shields be able to hold against Cybran now, with Vipers already making tacdef useless.
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Vipers are mediocre against firebases after the TMD targeting improvements, it's just that the other MML are garbage. You need a clump of like 10 vipers to start chewing through a firebase at any reasonable speed and half of that can get deleted by just one T2 arty hit or some T1 bomber sweeps
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Another brainstorm, maybe turn Fire Beetles into Amp Beetles, and have them also detonate on shields and disable them - 1.5k dmg to shields.
Or add T2 'Amp Ram' unit that has personal stealth, and it attack shields from somewhat small range - just big enough to stand outside Sera T3 shields (so you don't get the odd behaviour of it going inside a shield and then not doing anything xD).
On the topic of names... As already mentioned, original names are kinda all over the place, but two main themes are 'animals/mythical beings' (Mole, Mantis, Medusa, Rhino, Viper, Fire Beetle, Cerberus, Dragon Fly, Cormorant, Barracuda, Siren, Mermaid), 'professions' (Hunter, Hoplite, Loyalist, Deceiver, Disruptor, Guardian, Corsair, Renegade, Revenant, Wailer, Jester, Prowler, Soothsayer) and 'greek-stuff' (Zeus, Myrmidon, Olympus, Salem, Gemini, as well as some stuff from the previous 2 categories) which is also kinda all over the place in and of itself. Despite what many are arguing, there isn't actually any cohesion. You could say 'greek', but if anything there are more animals. But so are there plenty in say UEF.
Whatever the name, what I'm not liking is the current trend of 'a thing that breaks the shield', because they kill shields, but in reality, the purpose of the shield is more akin to walls and other fortifications. So yeah, if we are going the direction of defense-neutralization and in particular 'siege weapons', "Trebuchet" is already taken; "Ram" kinda sounds lame (though it does have the double source of both animal and siege weapon), "Scorpio" sounds very good to me (though again it was more of an anti-infantry weapon, rather than anti-fortification), "Catapult" doesn't seem fitting.
