Absolver
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I would like to pitch in an idea for the name of this new unit - if it makes it in.
The Severance.
Seems like it would fit with the Cybran theme.
~ Stryker
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This except it should be called the Xiphos because quite a few Cybran units have Greek names (Zeus, Medusa, Hoplite, Cerberus technically Megalith)
And the Greek named units tend to be high ranged skirmishers for each tech level (T1: Medusa, T2: Cerberus and Hoplite, T4: Megalith)
So a T3 unit named the Xiphos (Greek for a type of short sword) would fill in that gap neatly imo
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"Gastraphetes" would fit better, in that case.
Or "Hoplite"... but, since Hoplite is already taken...A "Gastraphetes" was a type of bow used to fire from afar, and since this unit fires from afar...
"Xiphos" is a sword... made for close-range combat.
Cool name for a unit, though.
"Phalanx" would fit, too.
~ Stryker
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I feel like that name is a bit too long, but I think Xiphos can still fit because this is an anti shield unit, and a xhiphos was a short sword which meant you could more easily get it around an opponent’s shield than a spear. (Basically the only reason it would be used, swords were always sidearms)
Phalanx sounds a bit generic imo but it’s fine
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Peltast?
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@comradestryker said in Absolver:
"Phalanx" would fit, too.
just fyi phalanx is already a name for UEF tmd weapon
I suggest ballista since trebutchet is already a name for cybran t3 mobile arty, and pretty sure ballista shot would punch right through a shield just like this unit is supposed to do
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Where exactly do Cybran names derive from?
They obviously have a root in Greek names, but what else?I'm thinking mainly because some units have strange names, at least I think so.
IE: Soul Ripper, Mermaid, etc.And some don't even make the slightest sense to me:
IE: Salem, Brick, Bouncer, etc.
~ Stryker
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well bouncer was added by FAF as all t3 mobile aa were, it doesn't exist in vanilla FA
and some names do make no sense but many units (esp. experimental) were named after FA developers, such as mavor, scathis etc, even wagner is named after a developer and it isn't even an experimental for example, so maybe it's from there for some of those too, otherwise idk
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The Tagada : Cybran T3 Mobile Shield Disrupter.
~ Stryker
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How about some sort of Greek witch:
Hecate
Circe -
Circe is really good I vote for that one
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I wonder how will stationary shields be able to hold against Cybran now, with Vipers already making tacdef useless.
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Vipers are mediocre against firebases after the TMD targeting improvements, it's just that the other MML are garbage. You need a clump of like 10 vipers to start chewing through a firebase at any reasonable speed and half of that can get deleted by just one T2 arty hit or some T1 bomber sweeps
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Another brainstorm, maybe turn Fire Beetles into Amp Beetles, and have them also detonate on shields and disable them - 1.5k dmg to shields.
Or add T2 'Amp Ram' unit that has personal stealth, and it attack shields from somewhat small range - just big enough to stand outside Sera T3 shields (so you don't get the odd behaviour of it going inside a shield and then not doing anything xD).
On the topic of names... As already mentioned, original names are kinda all over the place, but two main themes are 'animals/mythical beings' (Mole, Mantis, Medusa, Rhino, Viper, Fire Beetle, Cerberus, Dragon Fly, Cormorant, Barracuda, Siren, Mermaid), 'professions' (Hunter, Hoplite, Loyalist, Deceiver, Disruptor, Guardian, Corsair, Renegade, Revenant, Wailer, Jester, Prowler, Soothsayer) and 'greek-stuff' (Zeus, Myrmidon, Olympus, Salem, Gemini, as well as some stuff from the previous 2 categories) which is also kinda all over the place in and of itself. Despite what many are arguing, there isn't actually any cohesion. You could say 'greek', but if anything there are more animals. But so are there plenty in say UEF.
Whatever the name, what I'm not liking is the current trend of 'a thing that breaks the shield', because they kill shields, but in reality, the purpose of the shield is more akin to walls and other fortifications. So yeah, if we are going the direction of defense-neutralization and in particular 'siege weapons', "Trebuchet" is already taken; "Ram" kinda sounds lame (though it does have the double source of both animal and siege weapon), "Scorpio" sounds very good to me (though again it was more of an anti-infantry weapon, rather than anti-fortification), "Catapult" doesn't seem fitting.
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Anything ever come of this discussion? Anybody making a demo unit for this?
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At this point in the balance structure, I kinda hope not.
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Idea wasn’t liked by balance team so it died.
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@ftxcommando we dont have a balance team, we have despots. it's easier to throw out cybran faction.
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@noble_ice said in Absolver:
@ftxcommando we dont have a balance team, we have despots. it's easier to throw out cybran faction.
Hey, hey... No need to get mad at them.
They're fans of the game just like you and me.
They understand the game far better than any one of us.If they make a change, they share a reason why, and if it doesn't work out, they revert it.
Also, the Cybran faction has had some serious improvements over the last few balance patches. (2023)
Some notable ones:
- Salem range & HP increase
- ACU Regen increase + Nano upgrade
- Deceiver stealth range increase
- Brick & Wagner torpedo damage increase
- Brick range increase
- SoulRipper Rework
etc. etc. etc.
You can find the patchnotes for everything else here.
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The brick and Salem range increase are the two I've felt the most.
