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I am loving the new reclaim batching in 2022.10.0

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    Jip
    last edited by 13 Dec 2022, 18:33

    @TheWreck apologies for it being received that bad, but the batching can be turned off in the game options.

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      Ctrl-K
      last edited by 13 Dec 2022, 23:02

      @TheWreck, You can also try Optimized Reclaim View mod, a predecessor of FAF's batching.

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        Femboy Promotions team
        last edited by 14 Dec 2022, 02:55

        I actually like the batching as I felt it was a pain before when I’d had like 3-4 reclaim mods just to find one that would actually work. Now I don’t need to bother anymore since it’s implemented into the game (which new players will find very helpful)

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          ZLO
          last edited by ZLO 15 Dec 2022, 07:48

          i liked reclaim batching for 5 seconds, but then when i actually needed to do something I realized that it does not tell me important info: where the small rocks are and where are the big ones, so I turned it off .

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            Xayo
            last edited by Xayo 15 Dec 2022, 10:06

            Exactly. Reclaim batching helps you to assess the total value of reclaim in an area better. But then when you try to collect it in an efficient way you realize how dysfunctional the batching actually is.

            Maybe an option to decide up to which zoom level the batching is applied would help. I could see that batching is useful at max zoom out, but for anything below that, I would much prefer clickable reclaim indicators.

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              Jip
              last edited by 15 Dec 2022, 17:46

              We're very open to feedback. How about this:

              • https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/4510

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                Jip
                last edited by 15 Dec 2022, 17:50

                Note that the reclaim indicators themselves are not clickable, and reclaim in general is not always clickable either. The old threshold for batching was set to such that if the batching stops working you are guaranteed to be able to issue reclaim orders on props.

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                  Xayo
                  last edited by 17 Dec 2022, 10:50

                  Well, the indicator might not be clickable, but the prop it sits on is.

                  The distance threshold sounds like a step in the right direction. But how would it perform on maps of different size, eg 10km vs 20km maps? Hard for me to tell how useful one setting for all mapsizes would be without testing in a couple of games.

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                    Sheikah
                    last edited by 17 Dec 2022, 11:57

                    @Xayo there is a zoom level across all maps where if you are more zoomed out than that then you can't give reclaim orders. This has always been part of the game.

                    As Jip mentioned the batching is designed so that once you reach that zoom level or further in the batching is off.

                    So it is guaranteed that when you can issue reclaim orders there is no batching.

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                      Xayo @Sheikah
                      last edited by 17 Dec 2022, 18:38

                      @sheikah Thanks for pointing that out, i was not aware of it.

                      However, even when at a zoom level where you can't give individual reclaim orders, it is still very vital to know how a reclaim batch is structured. This allows you to make the optimal decision on how to collect it. And most often, my immediate next reaction is to zoom in and issue manual reclaim orders.

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                        Jip
                        last edited by 17 Dec 2022, 18:43

                        What about a hotkey / key to press that can temporarily disable batching?

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                          Cascade
                          last edited by 19 Dec 2022, 17:01

                          One thing that I miss about the old additional reclaim info mod was that it gave you the total sum of reclaim on screen. It was fun to zoom out and see the exact amount of reclaim on the map or in a specific area

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                            QuietJoy @Cascade
                            last edited by 19 Dec 2022, 19:19

                            @cascade said in I am loving the new reclaim batching in 2022.10.0:

                            One thing that I miss about the old additional reclaim info mod was that it gave you the total sum of reclaim on screen. It was fun to zoom out and see the exact amount of reclaim on the map or in a specific area

                            Seconded !

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