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    Weekly Discussion #17 - Do we really need TMLs?

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    • H-masterH Offline
      H-master
      last edited by

      Yes we need them. I am even in favor of a T3 version of them.

      Check out my maps here:

      Madness 1 - 10

      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/480/h-master-s-maps

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      • maudlin27M Offline
        maudlin27 @H-master
        last edited by

        They add more options and variety, deepening and improving the gameplay experience, so I wouldnt to want to see them removed.

        M27AI and M28AI developer; Devlogs and more general AI development guide:
        https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v71-devlog
        https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v241

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        • ? Offline
          A Former User
          last edited by

          Let's give them homing missiles and see what happens 😄

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          • veteranasheV Offline
            veteranashe
            last edited by

            T2 unguided
            T3 homing

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            • BrannouB Offline
              Brannou
              last edited by

              what about ACU/SACU TML?

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              • angelofd347hA Offline
                angelofd347h Global Moderator
                last edited by

                TMLs were invented in order to make Cybran players suffer.

                On a different note why do three of the launchers cost different amounts for the same thing?

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                  ovenman
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                  I think they aren't as important in games where you don't have a lot to manage since you aren't being pressured on multi tasking as much. Building tmd in your one and only base is mostly just habit. When both players have a lot to manage it rewards the one with better coordination from raiding the tmd and setting up the build power for the tml.

                  I think it can also help the mass donation problem since you only need to kill the tmd in a base rather than all the mexs. You wouldn't even need to send tanks into the enemy base if you used snipers or arty to kill them.

                  @angelofd347h
                  Differences are mostly in rate of fire. Sera shoots almost 4 in the time aeon shoots 3. Uef is about half way between them. For completion, cybran shoots 4 in the time sera shoots 3. You can see the cost increases as the rate of fire does.

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                  • S Offline
                    Sam-site
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                    As a noob the main difficulty I have with TML is awareness. It can be very easy to miss incoming missile attacks for some time if my concentration is elsewhere.
                    One aware it's fairly easy to counter with static defenses. A relatively big investment for early snipe attempts which can be countered just by moving your ACU around frequently, if anything it encourages you to keep using the ACU rather than park them up.
                    A better or unique icon for the in-flight missiles might be nice or a unique explosion sounds. A ping when the TML first missile comes into vision range would be lovely but perhaps make it too easy.

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                    • FtXCommandoF Offline
                      FtXCommando
                      last edited by

                      That's true of all snipes. You need to scout and be aware of what your opponent is doing, otherwise they can kill you with them while you're focused on the long term game.

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                        TankenAbard
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                        I like the idea of the tactical missile facilities costing different amounts because the missiles themselves function differently, some more effective.

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                        • X Offline
                          Xayo
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                          I hate 10x10 teamgame maps because of TML. It's just too strong when rushed by a single player, that can then go on and snipe everything on the entire map.

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                          • UvesoU Offline
                            Uveso
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                            From AI perspective i can only say TMLs are perfect to intercept experimentals (also air experimentals like czar!!!)

                            As noob i have also made a mod for TMLs that gives them the ability to use a lead-target function and autofire.
                            One of the best base defense weapons ever.

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                            • ? Offline
                              A Former User @Uveso
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                              @uveso I actually once spent several hours mastering taking down Czars with TMLs. One day, it will bring me victory...

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                                A Former User
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                                • CaliberC Offline
                                  Caliber
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                                  there's a special place in hell for those peaple who use tmls

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