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๐Ÿ‘‘THE KING of Seton's Clutch 2v2 66,6$ U4500

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  • A Offline
    archsimkat
    last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 12:44

    Winning team has to play a 1v1 to decide who is the ๐Ÿ‘‘

    L 1 Reply Last reply 16 Jan 2022, 12:52 Reply Quote 1
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      Lenkin @archsimkat
      last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 12:52

      @archsimkat i think Yudis teammate will not agree with you โ˜บ

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        Giebmasse Team Lead
        last edited by Giebmasse 16 Jan 2022, 13:49

        Since Seton's is the holy place I feel the need to comment.

        In my opinion "King of Setons" tourney should have no rating limit, you want the kings and not the princes and princesses, the best of the best, right?
        Mixing in NOMADS with its own specific balance I feel dilutes the "Seton's" part. A King of Seton's tourney should emphasize on the Seton's gameplay and not who finds the best Nomads balance exploits?

        This tourney with the current ruleset being honored with the "King of Setons" title feels a tad questionable.

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          TheWeakie
          last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 14:52

          Also on a bit of a side note: If you host a sentons tourney yourself it's fine, but if you title it "king of sentons" and release the king of sentons ava with it it feels more like an official faf tournament. So with that being said having the starting date of the tourney being russian primetime but fucking over most american players seems quite bad. Especially if you consider a lot of good/top sentons players are from burgerland.

          I understand that it's way better for you to host the tourney at this time considering your audience is russian, and it would be totally fine if it wasn't titled like an official faf tourney, but i feel like it should be more fair considering it is.

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            Lenkin @Giebmasse
            last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 15:27

            @giebmasse i dont wana delete nomads from tourney, but about rating im afraid to make result predictable, when Yudi will play with Nexus for example. So let it be 4500 cap. About Nomads it need because im sure aeon will be last pick every time. And about time i can start 14 gmt maximum. Is it ok now?

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              TheVVheelboy
              last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 16:04

              Exactly what others have said, this isn't King's of setons clutch tournament and I have no clue who allowed for the avatars to be even used in a tournament that's not even trying to determine the best people on clutch. Not to mention the addition of nomads...

              As much as I would love to watch it, I can't say I'm to thrilled about your usage of the "king of map" brand in a tournament that is anything but that...

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                FtXCommando
                last edited by FtXCommando 16 Jan 2022, 16:31

                King of Sentons has also traditionally been a 4v4 tourney.

                If you donโ€™t want OP teams then you use captain picking, rating caps just lead to picking the dude with 300 more 2v2 or 1v1 rating than global. Actually just saw that the rating cap pretty much just stops anyone in top 10 from playing with someone in top 10 so it basically doesnโ€™t really factor in really. Could even have a BH and Petric team.

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                  JazzFunkNoob
                  last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 16:32

                  I also have issues with the avatar, king of setons might be the most prestigious there is. Would love to play a 2v2 tournament on setons without nomads though!

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                    Eternal-
                    last edited by Eternal- 16 Jan 2022, 17:00

                    king of setons might be the most prestigious there is

                    huh ๐Ÿ˜€

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                      Morax
                      last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 17:02

                      Hey, Lenkin,

                      Sorry to do this but I think the 'King of' tourneys should be kept to their original form - at least for now. If you would like help creating new avatars or a name for this event I would be happy to assist.

                      Hope you understand!

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                        Lenkin
                        last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 19:03

                        thx everybody for your feedback, i just want to make interesting tourney. I dont want delete Nomads 2 reasons - its more interesting to watch for subs and do no pick every time aeon in lastpick

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                          TheVVheelboy
                          last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 19:46

                          Basically the problem is the "King of the map" brand. Everything else looks more than fine. Sure the nomads might be controversial but as long as it's not "king of the map" there is nothing stopping you from introducing them.

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                            NOC-
                            last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 22:43

                            Just host this as a standard non official tourney. Not king of, and not avatar of it for the winner.

                            We will reserve the real king of setons for its proper tourney status

                            Ras Boi's save lives.

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                              NOC-
                              last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 22:45

                              your also playing on faf version of setons clutch not the original version which is blastphemy to most if not all setoners

                              Ras Boi's save lives.

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                                waffelzNoob
                                last edited by waffelzNoob 17 Jan 2022, 00:34

                                @noonecares said in ๐Ÿ‘‘THE KING of Seton's Clutch 2v2 66,6$ U4500:

                                your also playing on faf version of setons clutch not the original version which is blastphemy to most if not all setoners

                                It's 2v2 anyway the usual setoner BOs and playstyles won't work here x)

                                As for the tournament I'd like to propose the idea of seeding the bracket based on rating, or atleast having the format be double elimination. With random seeding you can end up with unfortunate matchups where the two strongest teams face off in round 1 and one of them is immediately taken out of the tournament. You could argue this gives lower rated teams a chance of contending, but at the same time it's a bit unfair for stronger teams.

                                If you just want to host some chill tournaments and don't want too many rules that's also fine, of course

                                frick snoops!

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                                  Xayo
                                  last edited by Xayo 17 Jan 2022, 10:59

                                  "The King of Dualgap", no one fucking cared.
                                  "The King of Setons", the community goes raaarg.

                                  fucking hilarious scrolling through these comments.

                                  @Lenkin don't be discouraged by all the hate. I really like the format you chose. Taking a more creative and fun spin on the usual tournament settings is great. The 2v2 format on very popular team maps and the small but not insignificant prize pool match it well.

                                  If anything I feel like a 4500 rating cap is still on the generous side. Was there a single team in the dual gap tournament that was above 4.5k total? This could easily be reduced by another couple hundred points.

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                                    archsimkat
                                    last edited by 17 Jan 2022, 11:18

                                    @Xayo King of DG was not played on Nomads or U4100.

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                                      NOC-
                                      last edited by 17 Jan 2022, 12:56

                                      Also your talking about setons clutch not dual gap there is a difference.

                                      Ras Boi's save lives.

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                                        WhenDayBreaks
                                        last edited by 17 Jan 2022, 12:57

                                        Nomads balance exploits

                                        https://faforever.github.io/spooky-db/#/UEA0107,UEA0104,XNA0107,XNA0104

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                                          CheeseBerry @WhenDayBreaks
                                          last edited by 17 Jan 2022, 13:12

                                          @whendaybreaks Nomads' t1 air transports are almost as fast, and their t2 transports are faster than inties? That sounds, uh, not good for a map like setons, especially if only one team can use them.

                                          Are nomads drops actually as hard to catch as I would assume form those numbers?

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