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    Nooby
    last edited by Nooby 25 Oct 2021, 10:10

    Can we get a sentons only fullshare que, given sentons is typically played with optimum balance now it would be used so much

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      BlackYps
      last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 10:32

      Not at the moment.

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        Valki @BlackYps
        last edited by Valki 25 Oct 2021, 11:44

        This is absolutely fantastic, might challenge Age of Empires 4 for me.

        @blackyps said in 4v4 matchmaker is just around the corner:

        • Share Until Death is enabled - keeping ACU snipes as a viable option to end the game.
        • more 10x10 and less 20x20 maps - keep the ratio of 20x20 lower for more relaxed play
        • Unique Rating

        I hope that the 20x20 maps in this pool will be similar in playtime range to the 10x10's in this pool? It would be a shame if the average game time deviates too much.

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          Resistance
          last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 11:57

          literally the best thing i've heard for the last several months

          queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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            A Former User
            last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 12:17

            Very nice!

            But which maps though?

            Hopefully all of the Supreme Commander - Forged Alliance official 20 x 20 km maps for 8 players will be included.

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              H-master
              last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 16:26

              Great news. Thanks guys! Faf is getting better and better.

              Check out my maps here:

              Madness 1 - 10

              https://forum.faforever.com/topic/480/h-master-s-maps

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                Robustness
                last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 18:40

                I ask you to show the pool of cards a few months before the release and their number! This should not be a decision in the silence of a small group, without universal reaction and criticism

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                  Resistance
                  last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 19:26

                  4v4/3v3 tmm talk was always around for the last 6 months

                  queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                    A Former User
                    last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 19:40

                    Need dat Seton's queue...
                    ;D

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                      FtXCommando
                      last edited by 25 Oct 2021, 20:03

                      please only queues for relevant maps like dual gap, thanks

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                        CheeseBerry
                        last edited by 26 Oct 2021, 08:13

                        Amazing work!

                        Not entirely sure if a unique rating for each of the two 4v4 queues makes sense, but I guess the similarity of the modes, or lack thereof, depends hugely on map choice.
                        Regardless, increasing the deviation for the overrated globals (like me) was a very smart move!

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                          Valki @CheeseBerry
                          last edited by 26 Oct 2021, 08:47

                          @cheeseberry said in 4v4 matchmaker is just around the corner:

                          Not entirely sure if a unique rating for each of the two 4v4 queues makes sense

                          If anything we will find out if enough people play both modes.

                          But I imagine that knowing how to properly build a paragon or mavor is more relevant in one mode than the other, for example.

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                            Morax @Robustness
                            last edited by 26 Oct 2021, 15:39

                            @robustness said in 4v4 matchmaker is just around the corner:

                            I ask you to show the pool of cards a few months before the release and their number! This should not be a decision in the silence of a small group, without universal reaction and criticism

                            We are sorting out the maps for the pool. Upon completion of the draft I will be posting it here for feedback, just as we do for ladder and 2v2.

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                              Morax @Valki
                              last edited by Morax 26 Oct 2021, 15:41

                              @valki said in 4v4 matchmaker is just around the corner:

                              This is absolutely fantastic, might challenge Age of Empires 4 for me.

                              @blackyps said in 4v4 matchmaker is just around the corner:

                              • Share Until Death is enabled - keeping ACU snipes as a viable option to end the game.
                              • more 10x10 and less 20x20 maps - keep the ratio of 20x20 lower for more relaxed play
                              • Unique Rating

                              I hope that the 20x20 maps in this pool will be similar in playtime range to the 10x10's in this pool? It would be a shame if the average game time deviates too much.

                              Playtime is not something you can really control. I have seen 10x10 maps last longer than 20x20 and Vice versa, unfortunately. In fact, just about any hilly plateau i have played I set aside at minimum 45 minutes as the gameplay is very “turtly.”

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                                Treos
                                last edited by 26 Oct 2021, 19:22

                                Just wanted to say thanks to all involved in the Matchmaker development. I’m really excited for this.

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                                  Morax @Robustness
                                  last edited by 15 Nov 2021, 22:55

                                  @robustness said in 4v4 matchmaker is just around the corner:

                                  I ask you to show the pool of cards a few months before the release and their number! This should not be a decision in the silence of a small group, without universal reaction and criticism

                                  Please see this thread for that very request, Robustness:

                                  https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2872/4v4-tmm-map-list-wip-community-feedback-welcome

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                                    ghnaf
                                    last edited by 19 Dec 2021, 18:50

                                    Why we have to wait always three minutes even when enough player are waiting, will this be changed?

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                                      Sheikah
                                      last edited by 19 Dec 2021, 18:54

                                      There is a small waiting time to enable creating the highest quality games possible.

                                      When there are more people available then better balanced games can be created.

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                                        ghnaf
                                        last edited by ghnaf 19 Dec 2021, 19:02

                                        If there are 4-5 ppl waiting, and there is a good quality it could just start immediately, i don´t see why it should´t.
                                        Just because next loop could get some 0,% better quality?

                                        CoH matchmaker 2v2 starts immediately too, when quality is balanced.

                                        The only advantage, you have 3min to go piss or do stuff.

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