Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense

NapSpan

This just sound like a lot of noise for a stupid bug wich issues fix itself by playing more. Fixing the bug should be the unique solution as reviewing replays, sending warnings and applying bans takes time that could be used elsewhere.

chunky

I think drawing a game is fine, if you are lesser rated you should gain points for the draw as you had a lower chance to win (as seen by the bot).

Salvaging a lost game by a draw still requires planning and execution and shows that the opponent wasnt properly defending their acu.

Calling it a bug is misleading as in my view a shortstacking player securing a draw should gain some rating.

FtXCommando

The bug is that a draw counts as a win not that a draw happens. It’s a bug on how the client reports game results to the server.

arma473

Has this "draw bug" been fixed?

Game #15535906 - it appears to be ranked as a win (I gained 15 rating, my opponent lost 13 rating)

I wasn't trying to exploit the draw bug. I thought they fixed it.

Askaholic

Nope it hasn’t

keyser

the fix got reverted, because it made more games unrated

NOC-

This whole idea is idiotic.
The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

Zeldafanboy

@noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

This whole idea is idiotic.
The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

see

@ftxcommando said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

The bug is that a draw counts as a win not that a draw happens. It’s a bug on how the client reports game results to the server.

Askaholic

@keyser said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

the fix got reverted, because it made more games unrated

Well there wasn’t really a fix. The “fix” was to revert the fixes for the games being unrated, therefore making them unrated again .

arma473

@noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

This whole idea is idiotic.
The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

We're way past the idea of punishing people. I argued against it when it was first proposed. Now the plan is just to fix the bug. It's just hard to fix bugs sometimes. You try to fix something and 5 new problems come up.

Morax

@arma473 said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

@noonecares said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

This whole idea is idiotic.
The fact that you get punished for making a tactically good decision in a strategy game is stupid.
If your opponent over reaches and therefore dies tough luck.

We're way past the idea of punishing people. I argued against it when it was first proposed. Now the plan is just to fix the bug. It's just hard to fix bugs sometimes. You try to fix something and 5 new problems come up.

That is not exactly true: if someone knowingly does it you can have it reviewed; if someone does it add does not realize one should not be punished.

Jip

I think this is not something that can be moderated. Instead, we just need to find a reliable fix. Sadly, it is a very time consuming to debug.

Morax

@jip said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

I think this is not something that can be moderated. Instead, we just need to find a reliable fix. Sadly, it is a very time consuming to debug.

It’s already been decided. This thread is over six months old.

FtXCommando

There is nothing in the FAF rules that disallows you from ctrl+k'ing on people.

Morax

@ftxcommando said in Make the "Draw Bug" a Bannable Offense:

There is nothing in the FAF rules that disallows you from ctrl+k'ing on people.

See above, read the whole thread.

FtXCommando

I see Swkoll saying he would theoretically handle reports and Tex and Resistance saying it shouldn't be bannable. I also see no real arguments for how a ban on it would be enforced but a lot of arguments about why it's just a recipe for issues.

Morax

You’re missing some key points, but the regardless it’s a heavily frowned upon act to use intentionally.

TheVVheelboy

Lame

BlackYps

What key points? You can't make something bannable based on if it is done intentionally, because you can't know for sure if somebody is aware of the bug. Also, if you want to punish people for it, it should really be listed in the official rules.

Resistance

it won't be listed in the official rules cause it's not bannable,chill