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    • G
      gunner1069
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      Can I sign up if I'm below 0 rank? (currently -140)

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      • SwkollS
        Swkoll @gunner1069
        last edited by

        @gunner1069 Yep! I've signed you up.

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        • RoMadQuScientistR
          RoMadQuScientist
          last edited by

          Hm i have to sign out again, didn't notice its clashing with the 2v2 Tourney

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          • G
            gunner1069
            last edited by

            Sorry but I also need to withdraw - won't be able to be online later today

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            • I
              IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO
              last edited by IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO

              i would like to sign up to try to beat some AIs that will most certainly destroy me

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                IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO @Swkoll
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                @swkoll am i in?

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                • SwkollS
                  Swkoll @IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO
                  last edited by

                  @iamtheplokokiopo Yep

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                    IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO @Swkoll
                    last edited by

                    @swkoll i cant download some of the mods show as they dont show up in the faf launcher is there another place i can download them from? [mods in question
                    6.Sorian AI (creator Sorian): Adaptive and 3. Skouby AI (creator Skouby)]

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                    • SwkollS
                      Swkoll
                      last edited by Swkoll

                      Instructions for the tournament:

                      1. Join the #computercup irc channel, you can do this by clicking the "+" in the chat window and typing "#computercup"
                      2. Check what group you are in (below), this will determine which maps you play vs which AI. This ensures every AI plays each map a somewhat equal amount of time and players get different maps each game.
                      3. Starting at 15:00 UTC, everyone is going to start playing their games vs AI using this chart below from top to bottom. Everyone's first game is vs RNGAI, then AI-Swarm etc.
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                      4. Each AI mod will need to be downloaded from the vault (guide). Some AIs will require AI-Usevo to be active to work (RNGAI, AI-Swarm, Marlo's Sorian AI edit). If AI-Usevo is on please enable "Ai Map Marker Generator": "Autogenerate Always" in settings. (guide) Sorian AI is built into the client and does not require downloading.
                      5. Host each game, all games should use default spawns (slot 1 vs slot 2), you can pick whatever faction you would like, AIs should be played on random, except for DilliDalli and Marlo's Sorian AI edit whose faction picks can be found in the chart where Yellow is Seraphim, Green is Aeon, Red is Cybran, and Blue is UEF. (hosting guide)
                      6. Play each game and report the result in the #computercup channel (ie won vs Sorian AI)

                      Group 1:
                      IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO
                      MajorTrouble
                      Group 2:
                      Protect
                      gonglinyuan
                      Group 3:
                      FemtoZetta
                      CowGod
                      Group 4:
                      graftod666
                      Dankmemes
                      Group 5:
                      NapSpan
                      Hemfast
                      Group 6:
                      Jip
                      ButelkaOlejku
                      Group 7:
                      Askaholic
                      coufounazeer
                      Group 8:
                      maudlin27
                      Fury
                      Group 9:
                      RandomWheelchair

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                      • SwkollS
                        Swkoll @IAMTHEPLOKOKIOPO
                        last edited by

                        @iamtheplokokiopo Sorian AI is built into the client and doesn't require downloading, Skouby's AI is actually called SACUAI and the post has been updated to reflect this.

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                        • JipJ
                          Jip
                          last edited by Jip

                          Here's the list of games played:

                          • Marlo's edit: https://replay.faforever.com/14790965
                          • Sorian: https://replay.faforever.com/14790846
                          • Uveso: https://replay.faforever.com/14790778
                          • Dilli: https://replay.faforever.com/14790634
                          • SCAI: https://replay.faforever.com/14790450
                          • Swarm: https://replay.faforever.com/14790350
                          • Emerald: https://replay.faforever.com/14790174

                          edit: not all games have the right name - I forgot to edit them in between at times

                          A work of art is never finished, merely abandoned

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                          • maudlin27M
                            maudlin27
                            last edited by maudlin27

                            Replay IDs for my games (AI lost them all):

                            • Saltrock Colony - RNG Standard - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790159
                            • Theta Passage - FAF Version - Swarm Terror - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790304
                            • Emerald Crater - AI: SACU - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790414
                            • Crossfire Canal - FAF version - DilliDalli - AI Faction Aeon; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790669
                            • Polar Depression - Uveso Adaptive - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790783
                            • Open Palms - FAF Version - Sorian Adaptive - AI Faction Seraphim; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14790918
                            • Summer Duel - Marlo's Sorian AI edit: Adaptive - AI Faction Cybran; Replay ID: https://replay.faforever.com/14791298

                            A couple of points that struck me in particular while playing:
                            DilliDalli - I first played on the map with it as Sera (forgot it was meant to be Aeon) and the Com charged to an island alone allowing an easy kill with air.
                            Tried again with them as Aeon thinking it was just that it shouldve had hover units to support, but it did the same thing

                            SACU AI - the AI appeared to send all (or most) of it's land army out of the way to attack one wall segment that my Engi had built on an island before it died (there was nothing of value of mine nearby and I had no units there)

                            M27AI and M28AI developer; Devlogs and more general AI development guide:
                            https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2373/ai-development-guide-and-m27ai-v71-devlog
                            https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5331/m28ai-devlog-v150

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                            • TheVVheelboyT
                              TheVVheelboy
                              last edited by

                              PoR - RNG AI - https://replay.faforever.com/14789914
                              Saltrock - Swarm - https://replay.faforever.com/14790411
                              Theta - SacuAI - https://replay.faforever.com/14790510
                              Emerald crater - dili dali - https://replay.faforever.com/14790595
                              Crossfire - Uveso - https://replay.faforever.com/14790706
                              Poalr depression - Sorian - https://replay.faforever.com/14790971
                              Open palms - Sorian Edit - https://replay.faforever.com/14791082

                              Imo the one with most potential is dili. Could see it kicking ass of some -200 - 300 rated players in ladder.

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                              • FemtoZettaF
                                FemtoZetta
                                last edited by FemtoZetta

                                AI Map Replay comment
                                RNGAI Open Palms https://replay.faforever.com/14791086 forgot to turn on markers the first time, so this is the second attempt
                                AI-Swarm Summer Duel https://replay.faforever.com/14790327
                                SACUAI Cobalt Valley https://replay.faforever.com/14790415
                                AI: DilliDalli Point of Reach https://replay.faforever.com/14790493
                                AI-Uveso Saltrock Colony https://replay.faforever.com/14790667
                                Sorian AI Theta Passage https://replay.faforever.com/14790773
                                Sorian Edit Emerald Crater https://replay.faforever.com/14790869
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                                • DeribusD
                                  Deribus Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Damn Femto, fancy

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                                  • MajorTroubleM
                                    MajorTrouble
                                    last edited by MajorTrouble

                                    Screenshot 2021-06-26 133534.png

                                    Some things I noted while playing

                                    SACU AI might've actually competed with me had it done any reclaim, it had ample opportunity but didn't

                                    Sorian Edit didn't build any hydro plants

                                    DilliDalli was VERY aggressive - I liked that, too many new players including myself have to learn to be aggressive and the AI generally aren't aggressive enough to teach that

                                    AI Swarm gave me the most trouble and if it weren't for the 45 min time limit, it would've been a loss for me
                                    I might've done better with a different faction(aeon probably) but regardless, well done to the dev

                                    Also, I copied the graph from FemtoZetta-Very Nice

                                    https://replay.faforever.com/14790162
                                    https://replay.faforever.com/14790329
                                    https://replay.faforever.com/14790775
                                    https://replay.faforever.com/14790896
                                    https://replay.faforever.com/14790994
                                    https://replay.faforever.com/14791317
                                    https://replay.faforever.com/14791498

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                                    • S
                                      Softles
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                                      AI vs AI game results are as follows:

                                      Place AI Points
                                      1 RNG Standard 47
                                      2 DilliDalli 43.5
                                      3 Swarm Terror 32.5
                                      4 SACU AI 22.5
                                      5 Sorian Adaptive 19.5
                                      6 Uveso Adaptive 16
                                      7 Sorian Edit Adaptive 8

                                      Head to head results:
                                      (AI by row, opponent by column, points are "for the AI, against the opponent")

                                      AI\Opponent DilliDalli RNG Standard SACU AI Sorian Adaptive Sorian Edit Adaptive Swarm Terror Uveso Adaptive
                                      DilliDalli - 4.5 6.5 7.5 9 7 9
                                      RNG Standard 4.5 - 8 8 9 8.5 9
                                      SACU AI 2.5 1 - 5.5 7 3 3.5
                                      Sorian Adaptive 1.5 1 3.5 - 7 1 5
                                      Sorian Edit Adaptive 0 0 2 1 - 1 3.5
                                      Swarm Terror 2 0.5 6 8 8 - 8
                                      Uveso Adaptive 0 0 5.5 4 5.5 1 -

                                      Raw (JSON formatted) results as output from my script: results.txt

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                                      • SwkollS
                                        Swkoll
                                        last edited by

                                        Results:

                                        Congrats to RNGAI by relent0r and chp2001 for winning the overall tournament and AI vs AI with 47 points total!

                                        Additionally, congrats to AI: DilliDalli by Softles for winning the Player vs AI portion of the tournament with 1 point!

                                        An honorable mention goes to AI-Swarm by Azraeel for being the only other AI to score points in the player vs AI portion of the tournament and for coming in 3rd overall.

                                        Overall results:

                                        1. RNGAI
                                        2. AI: DilliDalli
                                        3. AI-Swarm
                                        4. SACUAI
                                        5. Sorian AI
                                        6. AI-Uveso
                                        7. Marlo's Sorian AI Edit

                                        AI vs AI Results:

                                        1. RNGAI
                                        2. AI: DilliDalli
                                        3. AI-Swarm
                                        4. SACUAI
                                        5. Sorian AI
                                        6. AI-Uveso
                                        7. Marlo's Sorian AI Edit

                                        Player vs AI Results:

                                        1. AI: DilliDalli
                                        2. AI-Swarm

                                        Thanks to everyone who made AIs to participate and to all the players who showed up to help benchmark the AIs.

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                                        • R
                                          relentless
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                                          Thanks for organising Swkoll! and the players for providing some interesting replays to ponder over (and whoever did the twitch cast as they pointed out where the AI's were failing by comparison to the humans they were fighting).

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                                          • UtopianU
                                            Utopian
                                            last edited by

                                            Damn, Uveso did much worse than I was expecting to be honest. Props to RNG though!

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