2021 April League Invitational

FtXCommando · 4 Mar 2021, 22:00

Because then I need to keep track of who showed up at the intended time for the next game. It isn’t “oh we didn’t play so just void the game” because then people void rounds they think they would lose and the guy that felt he had the advantage is pissed off. It means I or some other TD now needs to reorganize their lives to make sure they are present to ensure people live up to the time they intended to show up at.

Yes it isn’t a big deal when it’s a single person doing a few games, but it very quickly becomes a total shitfest once it’s half the tourney doing it.

Tex · 4 Apr 2021, 00:41

Round robin is fun for sure. Don't get my wrong, I am excited to play this, should nothing else come up to take me away from it. And I am with FTX that organizing 'out of tournament time' games is a shitshow. Never seen it work well, even for tournaments designed around it. I was just voicing my two cents and seeing if anything else could be done, or if anyone else was sharing my concerns.

BO1 is kinda lame for round robin
BO2 might work, but would be tricky.
BO3 is ideal, but long when you consider 7 BO3s.

Round robin is fun, and we don't get to do it enough. And it would be fun to play against more people we usually don't fight and see some upsets.

Double elim isn't that bad

Single elim would blow for this.

Swiss style maybe?

ZLO · 5 Apr 2021, 10:41

so i can signup right? i wanna participate but just have no time to play ladder right now

FtXCommando · 5 Apr 2021, 11:08

Yes, it works like LotS except instead of rating it’s league placement that can push your seed down.

ThomasHiatt · 5 Apr 2021, 16:07

Upon further consideration, getting up at 6AM to play a long series of sad games in front of millions of live viewers sounds like a bad idea. I give up my slot.

FtXCommando · 4 May 2021, 20:06

The tourney IRC will be #IRCApril

Also do people have an interest in doing faction bans? I likely won't do it for this series but if people have an interest in it I need to find an assistant TD that can help me out on Sundays for future series.

Also challonge is now posted.

Just a reminder that people that are interested in playing but get pushed out of the top 8 can still show up and substitute for no-shows on the day of the tournament. Your priority as a substitute is determined by your points in the March league.

Raider- · 5 Apr 2021, 22:18

If one of the top 8 don't sign up I will play!

archsimkat · 6 Apr 2021, 01:52

If thirteen out of the top 20 don't sign up I will play!

Tagada · 4 Jun 2021, 09:56

If 13 out of top 20 won't sign up I can play. Well, nevermind XD

Auriko · 6 Apr 2021, 08:18

Obviously completly against faction bans

Tex · 6 Apr 2021, 15:19

You dirty dirty aeon player.

Auriko · 6 Apr 2021, 16:23

On a serious note, at our very humble level of incompetence, i think player micro/eco balance/decision making is mostly what decides games, not faction picks.

I can hear the argument that when games are very close (almost mirror decision making and similar ecos), in that case faction differences come into play big time, and that is probably the case at the top level for people like Nexus or Tagada.

But when it comes to lower rated players, the factions differences tend to matter a bit less. When i'm a few t2 mexes behind my opponent because he ecos better, the little things like having slighly more efficient t2 air or t2 destro is not going to matter much. So in that case factions bans are less relevant.

Tagada · 4 Jun 2021, 16:41

Have fun with 4 cybran detros vs 3 aeon ones. On a serious note I think that faction still matter at 1.8k+ level especially on some maps but there are some players that play only single faction on ladder and since this is a ladder players event I don't see a reason for it to be drastically different then ladder.

Inspektor_Kot · 4 Jul 2021, 07:46

@FtXCommando
The tourney needs in faction bans. For example, without it gameplay on pizza will become sera vs sera, cause arty is good there. I would choose veto system for factions from the spring invitational tourney, it worked good

Eternal- · 7 Apr 2021, 09:27

Signing up if i`m fit

FtXCommando · 4 Oct 2021, 12:27

~~Still need someone to cover livecasting on Saturday btw.~~

Caster found

arma473 · 4 Dec 2021, 08:56

2021 April League Invitational
List of All Games Played
April 10-11, 2021

Round 1

Series 1A - EspinoZa vs Inspektor_Kot
#14272595 on The Bermuda Locket - FAF version (Sera vs Sera)
#14272799 on Point of Reach v4 (Sera vs Sera)

Series 1B - Auricocorico vs ZLO
#14272581 on Point of Reach v4 (Aeon vs Sera)
#14272915 on Frithen (Aeon vs Sera)

Series 1C - Eternal- vs Swkoll
#14272669 on Arcane (UEF vs UEF)
#14272861 on Amoor (Cybran vs UEF)

Series 1D - Shen vs Tex
#14272507 on Arcane (UEF vs UEF)
#14272629 on Gateway and Rose (UEF vs UEF)
#14272792 on Gateway and Rose (UEF vs UEF)

Round 2

Series 2A - Eternal- vs Tex

#14273047 on Gateway and Rose (Sera vs UEF)
#14273199 on Open Palms (Aeon vs UEF)

Series 2B - Inspektor_Kot vs Shen
#14273069 on Crossfire Canal (Cybran vs Aeon)
#14273318 on Arcane (Cybran vs UEF)
#14273526 on Point of Reach v4 (Sera vs Sera)

Series 2C - Swkoll vs ZLO
#14273237 on Point of Reach v4 (Cybran vs UEF)
#14273639 on Arcane (UEF vs Cybran)

Series 2D - Auricocorico vs EspinoZa
#14273154 on Frithen (Aeon vs Cybran)
#14273284 on Amoor (Aeon vs Sera)

Round 3

Series 3A - Tex vs ZLO
#14273859 on The Bermuda Locket - FAF version (Sera vs Sera)
#14274029 on Canis River (UEF vs Sera)

Series 3B - EspinoZa vs Swkoll
#14273875 on Amoor (Sera vs Sera)
#14274009 on Arcane (Sera vs UEF)
#14274653 on Open Palms (UEF vs UEF)

Series 3C - Auricocorico vs Inspektor_Kot
#14273828 on Crossfire Canal - FAF version (Aeon vs Cybran)
#14274116 on Canis River (Aeon vs Aeon)
#14274453 on Frithen (Aeon vs Cybran)

Series 3D - Eternal- vs Shen
#14273833 on Frithen (Sera vs Sera)
#14273886 on desert arena (UEF vs Sera)

Round 4

Series 4A - Auricocorico vs Swkoll
#14274873 on Arcane (Aeon vs Aeon)
#14275262 on Canis River (Aeon vs Aeon)
#14275475 on Canis River (Aeon vs Aeon)
#14275643 on Amoor (Aeon vs UEF)

Series 4B - Shen vs ZLO
#14274265 on The Bermuda Locket - FAF version (Sera vs Sera)
#14274537 on desert arena (Sera vs Sera)

Series 4C - EspinoZa vs Tex
#14273511 on Desert Arena - FAF version (UEF vs UEF)
#14273616 on The Bermuda Locket - FAF version (Sera vs UEF)

Series 4D – Inspektor_Kot vs Eternal-
Kot wins by default

Round 5

Series 5A - Eternal- vs ZLO
#14281899 on The Ditch (Sera vs Cybran)
#14282063 on Arcane (Sera vs Cybran)

Series 5B - Auricocorico vs Tex
#14281976 on Crossfire Canal - FAF version (Aeon vs Sera)
#14282262 on Canis River (Aeon vs Sera)
#14282527 on Open Palms (Aeon vs Sera)

Series 5C - EspinoZa vs Shen
#14282027 on 8 - Badlands_v4 (UEF vs UEF)
#14282294 on Amoor (Sera vs Sera)

Series 5D - Inspektor_Kot vs Swkoll
#14282177 on The Ditch - FAF version (Cybran vs UEF)
#14282442 on Gateway and Rose (Cybran vs UEF)
#14282831 on The Bermuda Locket - FAF version (Cybran vs Cybran)

Round 6

Series 6A - Auricocorico vs Shen
#14282691 on Arcane (Aeon vs Sera)
#14282913 on Crimson Feud (Aeon vs UEF)
#14283092 on Frithen (Aeon vs UEF)

Series 6B - EspinoZa vs Eternal-
#14282454 on The Bermuda Locket - FAF version (Sera vs Random)
#14282634 on The Ditch - FAF version (Sera vs Random)
#14282825 on 8 - Badlands_v4 (Sera vs Random)

Series 6C - Inspektor_Kot vs ZLO
#14283146 on Point of Reach v4 (Cybran vs Cybran)
#14283458 on The Ditch (Cybran vs Cybran)
#14283598 on Crossfire Canal - FAF version (Cybran vs Cybran)

Series 6D - Swkoll vs Tex
#14283088 on Arcane (UEF vs UEF)
#14283277 on Arcane (UEF vs UEF)
#14283615 on Amoor (UEF vs UEF)
#14283807 on Point of Reach v4 (Cybran vs UEF)

Round 7

Series 7A - Shen vs Swkoll
#14284299 on 8 - Badlands_v4 (UEF vs UEF)
#14284473 on ambush the enemy (UEF vs UEF)
#14284674 on Arcane (UEF vs UEF)

Series 7B - Inspektor_Kot vs Tex
#14284230 on Point of Reach v4 (Cybran vs UEF)
#14284441 on Crossfire Canal - FAF version (Cybran vs UEF)
#14284797 on Arcane (Cybran vs UEF)

Series 7C - Auricocorico vs Eternal-
#14283325 on Canis River (Aeon vs Aeon)
(No other games in the vault. Perhaps this was a forfeit by Eternal-)

Series 7D - EspinoZa vs ZLO
#14284165 on The Ditch - FAF version (Sera vs Sera)
#14284546 on Point of Reach v4 (Sera vs Sera)

Also: here is a search string that you can enter into the Java client to pull up all tournament games (copy it to your clipboard, then in the FAF client, check the box for: display search query, and then paste this into the query input field, and press enter to perform the search directly from the query input field).

id=in=("14272507","14272581","14272595","14272629","14272669","14272792","14272799","14272861","14272915","14273047","14273069","14273154","14273199","14273237","14273284","14273318","14273511","14273526","14273616","14273639","14273828","14273833","14273859","14273875","14273886","14274009","14274029","14274116","14274265","14274453","14274537","14274653","14274873","14275262","14275475","14275643","14281899","14281976","14282027","14282063","14282177","14282262","14282294","14282442","14282454","14282527","14282634","14282691","14282825","14282831","14282913","14283088","14283092","14283146","14283277","14283325","14283458","14283598","14283615","14283807","14284165","14284230","14284299","14284441","14284473","14284546","14284674","14284797")

Factions Statistics:

UEF: 45/136 (33.09%)
Aeon: 25/136 (18.38%)
Cybran: 24/136 (17.65%)
Sera: 39/136 (28.68%)
Random: 3/136 (2.21%)
Mirror: 33/68 (48.53%)

Cross-Faction Win Rates

Aeon:
Overall: 3 / 12 (20%)
vs. Cybran: 0 / 4 (0%)
vs. UEF: 1 / 3 (25%)
vs. Sera: 2 / 5 (28%)
vs. Random: 0 /0

Cybran:
Overall: 10 / 6 (62%)
vs. Aeon: 4 / 0 (100%)
vs. UEF: 4 / 6 (40%)
vs. Sera: 2 / 0 (100%)
vs. Random: 0 /0

UEF:
Overall: 10 / 9 (52%)
vs. Aeon: 3 / 1 (75%)
vs. Cybran: 6 / 4 (60%)
vs. Sera: 1 / 4 (20%)
vs. Random: 0 /0

Seraphim
Overall: 11 / 6 (64%)
vs. Aeon: 5 / 2 (71%)
vs. Cybran: 0 / 2 (0%)
vs. UEF: 4 / 1 (80%)
vs. Random: 2 / 1 (66%)

Random:
Overall: 1 / 2 (33%)
vs. Aeon: 0 / 0
vs. Cybran: 0 / 0
vs. UEF: 0 / 0
vs. Sera: 1 / 2 (33%)

FtXCommando · 11 Apr 2021, 10:04

I won't be here due to other obligations, so Dragun101 will take over TD responsibilities. I don't think there is anything that the TD needs to handle other than updating the challonge currently, as the only real question I got during Day 1 revolved around replaying tie games on the same map.

The major thing is how to read results once the series is over, so I'll explain it in this post:

In the case of a tie, you look at the first column between individuals that tied. If this breaks the tie, then you have your winner.

If this does not break the tie, look at the second column. If this breaks the tie, then you have your winner.

If there is still a tie between players, the winner will be determined by the highest ladder rating.

FtXCommando · 11 Apr 2021, 20:41

The Tournament is Over!

The Champion and winner of the $100 prize is...

EspinoZa!

Alongside Swkoll coming in with the runner up $50 prize.

The tournament certainly was close, it seemed like any of Swkoll, ZLO, EspinoZa, or Shen had a chance to grab the 1st place spot by the end of Day 1 and even by the time of the final round in Day 2 the top placements were still up in the air.

There were several great moments during the series but the tournament arc of Swkoll is perhaps the best story of them all. He slayed the giants of EspinoZa and ZLO on the first day and looked to have a shot at securing the top slot all for himself. Then, he fell to Auriko in the last round of Day 1 which brought him back into contention with the rest of the tournament pack. Ultimately, he got a 2nd place finish due to the fact Tex was able to snatch a series win from him on Day 2.

Judging by the fact Swkoll had 3 different games where he had 1:10 odds of beating his opponent, and he won all 3, he certainly seems to be the type that never likes being told the odds. Or maybe he does and that's what he uses to fuel his upsets.

Challonge: https://challonge.com/s92acdem

Results:

LotS Points: