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    • RadianceR Offline
      Radiance
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      Brutus, I would say test for a few weeks to see the outcome. I understand once released as mentioned there is no backwards compatibility. If it were to be released say tomorrow, we probably wouldn't know the problems it would cause. Perhaps a select pool of people should participate until it is clear if it will not cause further problems. Otherwise, it could turn into a disaster.

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        snoog
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        I haven't been playing much lately, so I'm down to potentially brick my game for the sake of testing a new adapter. Should we schedule a day & time for people to get on and test?

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        • maggeM Offline
          magge Global Moderator
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          The sooner we start to test it, the faster we can identify and resolve any bugs. Even if there are some short-term issues, it is absolutely worth in the long run when we get a more stable connection system. Count me in for helping to test it out.

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          • Brutus5000B Offline
            Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
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            So you need a new test-client version. That only works with other test clients. You can go back to the normal client (but I don't know if you can install them in parallel or need to uninstall and reinstall each time).

            You can play on the production server.
            But a test-client can only connect to a test client and a normal client can only connect to a normal client. That's why you should only play custom games, in the matchmaker you will be matched with people using the normal client.

            If you encounter issues you describe the problem and tell us the game id and we can look at all the logs.

            At some point we have to decide to roll it out for everyone. At this point there is no turning back for single users where it doesn't work (in worst case we need to do a global rollback to the old version)

            He said, "I've been to the year 3000
            Not much has changed, but they live underwater
            And your great-great-great-granddaughter
            Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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              Sheikah @Brutus5000
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              @Brutus5000 said in Open discussion on testing and rollout of the new ice adapter:

              So you need a new test-client version. That only works with other test clients. You can go back to the normal client (but I don't know if you can install them in parallel or need to uninstall and reinstall each time).

              People should be able to have two versions of the client installed at the same time.

              The only part that is really shared that might get wonky is the client prefs between them.

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              • TheVVheelboyT Offline
                TheVVheelboy
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                Drop announcement in the discord with testing date and we should get enough people to stress test it. Hell, hit up @Strydxr or @Razana and we might even get CNN hosted on the new client for even better test.

                I also don't think that the bandwidth requirements should matter at all, unless it were to really baloon. We are no longer in copper era of internet, so I would assume everyone would have that 1-2Mb/s of upload available for themselves. And considering how bandwidth intensive FAF is, I really don't think that doubling it will matter at all.

                And if available I will also show up for some testing games.

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                • StrydxrS Offline
                  Strydxr Team Lead @TheVVheelboy
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                  @TheVVheelboy said in Open discussion on testing and rollout of the new ice adapter:

                  Drop announcement in the discord with testing date and we should get enough people to stress test it. Hell, hit up @Strydxr or @Razana and we might even get CNN hosted on the new client for even better test.

                  I also don't think that the bandwidth requirements should matter at all, unless it were to really baloon. We are no longer in copper era of internet, so I would assume everyone would have that 1-2Mb/s of upload available for themselves. And considering how bandwidth intensive FAF is, I really don't think that doubling it will matter at all.

                  And if available I will also show up for some testing games.

                  Sounds good, if details are confirmed for this testing please forward them to me so i can get the Trainers ready to discuss a possible test CGN on top of the normal scheduled ones!

                  Mods, can we ban this guy?

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                    Defiant @Brutus5000
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                    @Brutus5000 Consider adding an idiot proof notification system of some kind. People who find they can't join games may not be aware of Discord, these forums, etc.

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                      Kilatamoro
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                      Is this supposed to help against DDoS?

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                      • Brutus5000B Offline
                        Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin @Kilatamoro
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                        @Kilatamoro said in Open discussion on testing and rollout of the new ice adapter:

                        Is this supposed to help against DDoS?

                        Yes and no.
                        Due to DDoS we can no longer run our own TURN servers, so we have to use 3rd party ones. Our current provider Xirsys seems to work, but people have still connectivity issues and it could be related due to issues in our current ice adapter. We know this, because it doesn't work together with Cloudflare TURN service at all.

                        With the new solution we can use Cloudflare, which is also cheaper than Xirsys.

                        So it does not directly impacts DDoS related problem, but it is related to it.

                        He said, "I've been to the year 3000
                        Not much has changed, but they live underwater
                        And your great-great-great-granddaughter
                        Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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                          Surfer @Brutus5000
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                          @Brutus5000 said in Open discussion on testing and rollout of the new ice adapter:

                          No more debug connection window.

                          There is an old trick serving a minimal html page from the application.
                          Setup setInterval(1000,function(){location.reload()}) in the page header so the page refresh itself after timeout.

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