I hear Janus cannot be stopped by Aeon Gun

Two years ago we had Community Game Nights run by our old Community Manager (CM) Deribus, after some time these lost interest and died down. Although, we have recently brought them back and are on our way to have our 3rd CGN on Saturday 28th of September, 2024 (Current projection as of this post being written). Although the progression of attendance has been constant full lobbies (or even overflow), the feedback given to these events this far seems to be rather sparse or outright not said at all, which is fine to operate under, but how can we improve this Biweekly event if we don't know the good, the bad, and the ugly?

I'd like to use this Forum post as a way to gather insights on this event, hopefully if this continually goes on and on the insights gathered can be used to make adjustments, improvements and to help other aspects of FAF.

Please feel free to make any comments you'd like in regards to the Community Game Night, I'd prefer you'd have been there for at least 3 of the games since we've started them back, but I know a few of those who have been in vc only may have some insights and concerns as well.

P.S. If you have any suggestions for themes as well, we'd love to hear those as well.

@phong reject titans and loyalists, embrace mech marines and hunters.

Bro's leaving, take this on your journey.

Cya around Sladow, good luck on the other RTS scenes.

@phong Buff novax, I need muh lasers to autowin!!!

@phong repent my brother, we make Aeon Gun Chrono and OC the GC into submission. For allah.

@phong Maybe if we buff UEF again she'll dm us back : (

@phong said in Aeon Gun ACU:

Well that's a very good reason indeed ftx. An in joke.

Mine was that I laughed so hard at @Strydxr's comment that I felt compelled to join in the fun. Not an in joke, more like a bad joke. An overindulgence, in retrospect. Nothing I could come up with would ever match the wit of his Janus jab.

I did accuse you of hypocrisy in regards to shitposting, but you've cleared that up and I must apologize. You're not a shitposter and I'm sorry my ignorance led me to conclude you were. Now that I'm in on your joke, I know better.

Neither agree or disagree with you on the gun range. But I'm happy to have helped bring out the better version of your arguments. I think that, like me, people will find them more convincing than I did the OP. Stay classy.

I personally think our UEF balance takes were more interesting than the aeon thread tbf. Should do this again sometime! : )

@phong said in Aeon Gun ACU:

@strydxr I'll be honest mate, I'm legitimately sad the Colossus is still in such a sorry state, a full 9 months after Jip published videos on how he fixed the bugs with the grabby arms on the official FaF Youtube channel. I'm not sad because I die to it, but because of what it means.

But that is more or less a settled issue warranting no further balance deliberations. It just raises the question, what good are discussions anyway, if problems linger for so long even after they're decided upon?

I recently hosted a game with beta balance by mistake (i was meaning to pick fafdevelop) and was informed it's not up to date, so I can't even provide what little help I might, by testing, although I want to.

With regards to @FtXCommando's proposal, I tend to agree that T2 is in a good enough state right now to consider such a change, but again, I'm not really confident my opinion on this matter is of much worth.

reject colossus, embrace percival push.

In my opinion, the intel stuff should be a toggle, but could be interesting to see..

The disperse stuff sounds promising.

@indexlibrorum I am aware of the EST folk also having difficulty getting to the Europe central games, and I believe we'll be doing an EST run of the CGN as well as the European one as well, although I'm not involved in planning for the 28th September event.

I would consult @Terminal about if he's still planning to do the EST CGN, and what times. If all goes well for a testing period and go from there : )

Unsure if these times will help you or the AUS players, but all i can really put forward for now, apologies boss.

@willowisppsi Could you elaborate? I'm unsure of any FFA maps or how it'd work logistically, but it does sound promising!

Two years ago we had Community Game Nights run by our old Community Manager (CM) Deribus, after some time these lost interest and died down. Although, we have recently brought them back and are on our way to have our 3rd CGN on Saturday 28th of September, 2024 (Current projection as of this post being written). Although the progression of attendance has been constant full lobbies (or even overflow), the feedback given to these events this far seems to be rather sparse or outright not said at all, which is fine to operate under, but how can we improve this Biweekly event if we don't know the good, the bad, and the ugly?

I'd like to use this Forum post as a way to gather insights on this event, hopefully if this continually goes on and on the insights gathered can be used to make adjustments, improvements and to help other aspects of FAF.

Please feel free to make any comments you'd like in regards to the Community Game Night, I'd prefer you'd have been there for at least 3 of the games since we've started them back, but I know a few of those who have been in vc only may have some insights and concerns as well.

P.S. If you have any suggestions for themes as well, we'd love to hear those as well.

@jip

Honestly, I'm not sure what is the correct answer, as FAF operates on a decentralised communication aspect. I'm not sure how the other teams have handled it, but here's how we handled it when I joined the Personal Trainer Team:

1. We drafted worthwhile topics.
2. We had a meeting (with nearly 100% Trainer Attendance + Babel & OGW_PR_Outreach)
3. We discussed these topics, verifying that the problem is commonplace and began to provide solutions and feedback (everyone contributed to each problem in some way, making sure we had every insight we possibly could have acquired)
4. We narrowed it down to two insights that would work best for the problem, and then had a vote
5. We documented this meeting, including all important notes and changes to start the shift for a slightly more centralised approach to keep each other up to date.

Now this won't work in larger scales, as this was meant to address several issues within the Trainer Team, although I think this is where Team Leads could possibly have a bit more impact within their respective teams.
I'd propose for most major changes to have a representative of most if not all teams to keep everyone up to date, as this should then allow everyone to keep up to date due to the flow of information from the teams to the community, or for the Team Leads to just be informed and then they forward it to us, and then we follow the same step in keeping everyone up to date.
This may have some flaws I cannot foresee due to conditional bias, and I think teams could have some pretty qualitive and quantitively varying insights to changes before it's published, hopefully lessening the impact of issues like this in the future.

Another solution I'd like to put forward is newsletters or pings for discussions in this matter, as I think they already exist (correct me if I am wrong) in FAF development, but for changes regarding moderation changes and stuff like that, I think the outward communication before publishes may have a similar effect, and it may solve the communication on the moderation game dev or whoever's end, leaving it to the players to then keep their end of the deal of promising better two way communication.

Perhaps you'll disagree, and that's fine. But this is my opinion of someone who's seen this before and realistically the more insights that are provided the better.

Honestly, FAF isn't even that beyond saving, it's just that there's no idealist way to progress and therefore splinters are beginning to form.

What I want to know is, what even if the vision for FAF? The reason I ask this is because every older FAF player I speak to keeps saying FAF isn't what it used to be, client used to be more optimised and there was actually a pro scene. What changes caused this? Can an agreement be made to try and bring some of these older players back and rebuild one of the fundamentals of what makes an RTS great?

Also with the new RTS games out there, I feel like they'll lose their appeal over time, stuff like BAR, PA and Sanctuary will all thrive for a while and slowly lose the feeling of being new to people. This might cause a few people to come back to the old reliable RTS they once thrived on, just a thought.

All in all, I don't really have a massive stance in each direction, I feel a lot of newer policies could've been handled better, and maybe better communication between moderation game dev team etc and the general populace of faf and the remnants of the pro scene, overall it just seems like no one really knows what the fuck is going on and therefore leaves a lot of frustration over smaller things instead of how to make the game enjoyable again.

I suspect some new insights in the next 2-4 months will give us a bigger picture for us all to work with, as it is a community effort after all.

@obliilacybrance Genius! I need my T3/GB pronouns

Bro's leaving, take this on your journey.

Cya around Sladow, good luck on the other RTS scenes.

@judoka1972-noob said in Username rules updates:

I think the 3600 guy will quit Faf I can t let you do this to him!!!!!!

Won't someone think of the Polish!?

@mostlostnoob said in Username rules updates:

@strydxr Nincompoop

Nuh uh! You're the Nincompoop!

@noc said in Username rules updates:

Whats wrong with the word "faggot".

I say this as a member of the gay community so you can ban me for being homophobic as it legitimately defines me.

I will happily give passes to all of my good friends if they ask, for retard and faggot.

Unfortunately I don't have one for the N word, but we can surely outsource for that, right friends!?

(This is a joke, calm down pls)