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    Why don't we have t3 sera gunships, but we have this?

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    • SkratS
      Skrat
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      Sorry for my English. I use translator

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        Tomma
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        I am too dumbfounded by this injustice, we must mend it by allowing ilshies shoot from transports

        Skill issue

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        • StrydxrS
          Strydxr Team Lead
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          we must make Sera have triple nano and resto field to make up for lack of T3 GS, smfh balance devs my head...

          Mods, can we ban this guy?

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          • ?
            A Former User
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            Also, did you guys notice that Ythota's death weapon deals about 150k damage?

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              Lowki
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              @Skrat what is that thing, never seen it before, is it a mod?

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              • MostLostNoobM
                MostLostNoob @Lowki
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                @lowki Cybran T3 Mobile EMP Missile Launcher. It's their version of the Aeon Absolver to disable shields.

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                  Lowki
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                  @MostLostNoob a new unit or a mod?

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                  • MostLostNoobM
                    MostLostNoob @Lowki
                    last edited by

                    @lowki It's a new unit that will be introduced into the base FAF game soon™. If you want to test it now, you can select FAF Develop as the Game Type in a Custom Game.

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                      Lowki
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                      @MostLostNoob ah thankyou, very impressive unit, i like how it swims

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                        Firv
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                        So real question though. Did cybran really need a buff on land?

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                          A Former User @Firv
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                          @firv And water. They swim like engis, so counter shield boats and floaty shields

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                          • FtXCommandoF
                            FtXCommando @Firv
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                            @firv said in Why don't we have t3 sera gunships, but we have this?:

                            So real question though. Did cybran really need a buff on land?

                            yea

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                              Firv @A Former User
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                              @melanol said in Why don't we have t3 sera gunships, but we have this?:

                              @firv And water. They swim like engis, so counter shield boats and floaty shields

                              wait what? really? because cybran needed an other buff??

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                              • TheVVheelboyT
                                TheVVheelboy @Firv
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                                @firv said in Why don't we have t3 sera gunships, but we have this?:

                                @melanol said in Why don't we have t3 sera gunships, but we have this?:

                                @firv And water. They swim like engis, so counter shield boats and floaty shields

                                wait what? really? because cybran needed an other buff??

                                Least picked faction in the last big tournament. Outclassed in many areas.
                                Meanwhile aeon still just chilling with the best roster, being the most picked faction in the tournament and yet nobody bats and eye.

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                                  Firv @TheVVheelboy
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                                  @endranii said in Why don't we have t3 sera gunships, but we have this?:

                                  @firv said in Why don't we have t3 sera gunships, but we have this?:

                                  @melanol said in Why don't we have t3 sera gunships, but we have this?:

                                  @firv And water. They swim like engis, so counter shield boats and floaty shields

                                  wait what? really? because cybran needed an other buff??

                                  Least picked faction in the last big tournament. Outclassed in many areas.
                                  Meanwhile aeon still just chilling with the best roster, being the most picked faction in the tournament and yet nobody bats and eye.

                                  What areas are they outclassed?

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                                  • FtXCommandoF
                                    FtXCommando
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                                    t2 land t3 land t2 navy t3 navy t2 air t1 air (bad bomber) t4 air

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                                      Reckless_Charger
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                                      Outclassed by who? I thought Cybran T3 land > Seraphim T3 land (at least 1v1). Bricks murder Othuums. And monkey lord can be built very quickly.

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                                      • FtXCommandoF
                                        FtXCommando
                                        last edited by FtXCommando

                                        Cybran t3 land will just always lose due to the incapability of providing hp via mobile shields, likewise the same for their t4s lacking the support of mobile shields.

                                        It's simply too important to stack hp on both utility units and keeping your priority units alive. That hole in their roster that cannot be filled is the whole reason why they got an antishield unit.

                                        A similar thing exists on navy btw, hence why the unit is amphibious. Every faction has a floating shield aside from Cybran.

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                                          Firv @FtXCommando
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                                          @ftxcommando said in Why don't we have t3 sera gunships, but we have this?:

                                          t2 land t3 land t2 navy t3 navy t2 air t1 air (bad bomber) t4 air

                                          Wait get out, cybran weak at t2 navy? Their t2 navy is opressive as fuuuck. Long range destroyers plus stealth boats? Sure shields might be nice for the other navies, but not beeing able to hit the enemy navy is 10 times more valuable then a shield.

                                          Their t2 air is arguable the strongest for snipes, esp now mercies get hella nerfed lol.

                                          T3 land is easily second place maybe shared first with UEF coz of percies/bricks. Aeon has nothing on t3 land and sera's oothums are meh.

                                          So if Cybran gets anti shield shit, can other factions get some long range anti stealth stuff? That would be nice. Something that doesnt die the moment an anti air looks at it that is.

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                                          • FtXCommandoF
                                            FtXCommando
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                                            They have either the weakest or 2nd weakest destro depending on circumstance because it has zero offensive player agency for micro while the defensive player can regularly dodge two thirds the dps. Only reason valiant is potentially worse is because it can’t cross utility to deal with subs. Salem actively gets worse when you try to micro it because the guns do not shoot backwards.

                                            Corsairs are really not great at dealing with anything that isn’t acus and even then it can be dodged. They’re not bad, no t2 air option is, but it’s probably the worst overall at least at high level games where options matter for causing defenses to spread. Also aeon gunship is still better for snipes tbh.

                                            Your take on t3 land makes me question everything. You don’t understand the value of harbs, sera mobile shields, or snipers. Cybran was basically just a worse UEF who still has a tough time at t3 stage. The slowness of siege bots + the infrastructure to setup the production + no shields to keep them safe from aoe makes t3 constantly problematic for cybran.

                                            “easily 2nd place” it’s kinda agreed by everybody to be the worst, that’s why last patch it got more buffs.

                                            Cyb also has no ravager to stop snipers like UEF, they strictly need to go for 15k mass arty base or 35k mass mega.

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