strategic icon

Advanced Strategic Icons (ASI) will not return using the setup that it did. The same setup can be used to change the lobby. This can be done for good (Kyro's), but also for the worse: using it as an easy attack vector to crash / break the lobbies of other players. And sadly the latter has taken over lately.

We introduced a 'proper way' to change the strategic icons of units through a UI mod. A lot of strategic icon sets emerged that since use this approach. As two recent examples:

• https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4841/reworked-strategic-icons
• https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2926/redux-strategic-icons

At the time we tried to contact the author of ASI to request permission to change the setup of his icons. You can read about it here:

• https://forum.faforever.com/topic/2577/converting-advanced-strategic-icons

I never received an answer. And until someone does there's nothing we can do . Luckily there are many alternatives now. Especially the BrewLAN strategic icons have a similar use of colors and size. They're still different of course.

Many mods have been enhanced or upgraded by the community over time. Why not just upgrade his mod and give him 100% credit for it? I think almost every mod author would love that the community still uses their work and cares enough to keep it alive, so long as the credit was there. In the unlikely event the mod author said he didn't like it, we could just apologise and take it down.

@nine2 said in strategic icon:

Why not just upgrade his mod and give him 100% credit

He has a copyright tag on his code. It even mentioned that no modifications are allowed without his explicit permission.

It's quite a bummer what some people do.
Some try to help, but others use that help to exploit something else.
It's a shame, really.

I can only hope the Author replies soon.
I quite enjoyed that ASI, and have gotten used to it, so much so, that it feels unnatural to me to use another icon mod, or vanilla icons.

Does anyone know of any other icon mod(s) that are nearly identical to ASI?
Or at least, similar? There are so many out there, and I have only had the time to test out a few, but so far...
they just aren't the same.

~ Stryker

@comradestryker said in strategic icon:

I can only hope the Author replies soon.

It's been two years; you can try contacting the author again of course.

@comradestryker said in strategic icon:

Does anyone know of any other icon mod(s) that are nearly identical to ASI?
Or at least, similar?

I would suggest having a look at either the BrewLAN Small or Classic icon sets as they're pretty close to ASI, imo.

Depends on what you mean with similar. I created the mod Reworked Strategic Icons in different sizes to address the issue of too small icons. I also changed the tech markers a bit, so for me the tech level of units is now much more salient than before. Other than that it tries to stay close to the vanilla icons, so if you want additional colors etc, then that is probably not your cup of tea. You can check for yourself here: https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4841/reworked-strategic-icons

Sorry for my English, it's not my native language.
But all the suggested options break my eyes.
Are there any options to return to the old strategic icons in any way?

would be nice.

@jip said in strategic icon:

Advanced Strategic Icons (ASI) will not return using the setup that it did.

nice.. well its just the look and feel of the game but hey..

Not really the fault of faf that the mod author specifically forbid any changes or derivative work of his mod

Yeah right that's a totally different story then

Some discussion happening on the discord too fyi: https://discord.com/channels/197033481883222026/1164661950970613841

Hello everyone again (I use a translator)
I would just like to speak out
FAF discovered a couple of years ago, yes, everyone has failures, problems, etc. But despite all the difficulties with discounts and errors, I was happy to play the "best strategy of the 21st century" every evening after work
And I am grateful to the entire FAF team for the work the scale of which I do not even realize
But after the last update, the game delivers only frustration
I have played 1100 rating games, the number of user matches played is beyond counting
Over these few years, the perception of the game using strategic icons has become so ingrained that playing with standard icons or using other modules does not give any pleasure and breaks the whole gameplay, it really feels like I've become worse at playing
It's like driving a car with a 26-inch steering wheel and now using a toy 10 steering wheel, I hope you understand what I mean.

I really hope that the FAF team will find a solution so that the old icon mod can be used.

But at this moment, returning home and having the desire to play with those people with whom we are not familiar in real life, but knowing each other by heart by nicknames, it hurts me that I can't do it because of such a small situation in my opinion.

There are icon mods on the vault, some better than ASI. Try some out

@cheeseberry said in strategic icon:

Some discussion happening on the discord too fyi: https://discord.com/channels/197033481883222026/1164661950970613841

and ? all that discussion creates more confusion.
What is the problem to Copy a "save" mod and exchange the icons with the ASI icons.

@reckless_charger I tried all the available mods for icons that are in the repository, from all the blood from the eyes

playing with standard icons or using other modules does not give any pleasure and breaks the whole gameplay, the desire to play with such icons disappears

@hoschmosch said in strategic icon:

What is the problem to Copy a "save" mod and exchange the icons with the ASI icons.

It would be copyright violation, so you couldn't discuss it on the forums. But nothing would stop you from using it when you played FAF

If anyone has a problem with strategic icons and no mods help, I’ll share my solution that helped me get back the old icons:

1 Download in Steam game discussions (old strategic icons)
2 Go to the folder (where the game is stored) C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\gamedata and open the textures file with Winrar
3 Go to the directory \textures\ui\common\game\strategicicons and copy here, replacing the files, all the icons that you downloaded earlier

(I apologize for the Google translation)