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    • ZeldafanboyZ
      Zeldafanboy @H-master
      last edited by

      @h-master

      Cybran had a T1 scout submarine and Aeon had a T1 static arty

      put the xbox units in the game pls u_u

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      • arma473A
        arma473
        last edited by

        All units with an engineering suite (except perhaps the Cybran cruiser and mantis), when they aren't actively building/assisting/capturing/reclaiming, will automatically use their engineering beam to reclaim any enemies or buildings in range without slowing down their movement or their ability to fire a gun. So regular ACUs get a little more DPS during fights. A T2 or T3 ACU will have a lot more DPS just from that. SACUs will be more useful in combat and engineers will be more able to protect themselves against enemies like LABs. Idle factories can reclaim nearby enemies in a small range.

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        • veteranasheV
          veteranashe
          last edited by

          Atlantis has a dive/surface/fly toggle.

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          • Chenbro101C
            Chenbro101
            last edited by Chenbro101

            Land unit can be dropped on the sirens air staging platform and attack from it.

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              therazza
              last edited by therazza

              being able to actually build the majority of a base underwater like TA.
              Imagine Setons with a base tucked away in the corner

              IE- power gen , mass/e storages, proper underwater torp defenses, anti sonar tech (ala stealth field gen), floating cloaked limpet mines, being able to seed low cost sonar perimeter lines trigger when crossed (single use), underwater walls that can't reclaim/destroy barring a nuke (no rust in this universe)

              Hydro plants upgradable to T3 with a small shield

              Limited amount of mass/e storage (10?) to build underground but costs 3x current storage

              T2 torp boats are trash, make them subs

              I like arma's suggestion, engis on patrol can reclaim to inflict damage

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                Aulex
                last edited by

                Delete engineers

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                • BrannouB
                  Brannou
                  last edited by

                  5 vet units can upgrade into next tier unit (mantis into rhino then brick etc)

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                  • H-masterH
                    H-master
                    last edited by H-master

                    Make a second type of strat that can carpet bomb an area.

                    Check out my maps here:

                    Madness 1 - 10

                    https://forum.faforever.com/topic/480/h-master-s-maps

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                    • arma473A
                      arma473
                      last edited by

                      SMDs deal splash damage, which would make it bad to "stack" nuke subs

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                      • Chenbro101C
                        Chenbro101
                        last edited by

                        Give cybran acu the sacu stungun upgrade.

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                          Balfron @Deribus
                          last edited by

                          ACU can walk and upgrade at the same time

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                          • waffelzNoobW
                            waffelzNoob
                            last edited by waffelzNoob

                            All land units (except hover) should have reduced traction when moving on ice, causing tanks to slip around a lot, and sometimes even causing bipedal units to slip, fall and die

                            frick snoops!

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                              Pure
                              last edited by Pure

                              Serious Balance: The Pillar tank was mildy nerfed a year or so back. I feel it really took the 'punch' out of the mid game UEF, especially it's ability to simply punch through any fire-bases (opposed to other factions methods of bypassing, harassing, or outraging them). It also makes the UEF inherently more turtl-ey and less 'on the offensive' (spend less time on T2, rush T3, etc). This makes it in many situations the weakest faction to field as it becomes inherently reactive and not maintaining a presence through the push. FAF really wakes up at T2, no reason to incentive-ize the T3 rush any further.

                              Fun Change: Cybran ACU, Right Arm 3rd Option - Speed increase, say 0.1 or 0.25 increase in walking speeds. Cybran ACU often lacks fighting or staying power, and is set up to be a little troll or gremlin. While Stealth and Gun or T2 can make it sneaky at plopping down turrets, or cloaking with the Laser, a fun mid-game solution would be the Gun or T2 suite + Stealth + Speed increase. Let the ACE quickly move around / sneak around taking potshots or building things, giving it a high-risk high reward set for mid-game to complement the high-risk high reward nature of the late game laser upgrade.

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                              • Accidental_AeonA
                                Accidental_Aeon
                                last edited by

                                Give the fatboy a billy nuke and 500 buildpower.

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                                  IcyKnightmare
                                  last edited by

                                  1. Make MMLs lead moving targets.
                                  2. Give missile cruisers and nuke subs tracking missiles (this was actually in vanilla supcom).
                                  3. Allow Hoplites to fire at gunships and transports again (another vanilla supcom feature removed for FA).
                                  4. Give UEF the missile launcher Titan from the supcom beta.
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                                    FrozenCat
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                                    Portal: the structure that make portal to any point of map - allow to teleport some mass (t1-t3 units) and return it. Cybrans can make hidden portals.

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                                      Tomruler
                                      last edited by

                                      Give mexes 5x adjacency bonus; just mexes, not fabs, pgens, storages etc.

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                                      • Rodimus_PrimeR
                                        Rodimus_Prime
                                        last edited by

                                        Give Aeon ACU Nano-Repair on the right arm, and Double Chrono upgrade.

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                                          dzonikv
                                          last edited by

                                          What if you add unit upgrades to its respective HQ? For exsample UEF land HQ could have an upgrade pressureproof shields, that would allow for Titans to walk underwater. Could spice up naval maps with it.

                                          Or some upgrade that will allow idle transports to be able to build stuff like flying engies. Things along that line that give you more strategic options and flexibility with your units, so you can be creative how you play. They should be quite pricey if you want to invest in it, but same goes for your Commander upgrades.

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                                            macdeffy
                                            last edited by

                                            Move Cybran ACU T2 Suite to Back, and Resource Allocation to Right Arm

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