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    • QuietJoyQ
      QuietJoy
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      Well, i'll certianly be using them going forward!

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      • LightBearerL
        LightBearer
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        "You will not stop the UEF"

        Let there be light

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        • H-masterH
          H-master
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          Thanks for the reminder. Any more suggestions? 🙂

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          • deletethisD
            deletethis
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            Of course, if the opponent is aeon or has access to their tech, you might as well forget missiles exist.

            Still, good advice.

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            • veteranasheV
              veteranashe
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              Spearheads have wheels, aeon tmd is short range

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              • waffelzNoobW
                waffelzNoob
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                aeon TMD is actually pretty bad and gets overwhelmed by mass MML spam, spearheads especially because they shoot barrages instead of single missiles

                dropping spearheads around to snipe mex or something sounds cool (might try it), but i'm wondering if it would be a better alternative to simple t1 arty drops

                frick snoops!

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                • TheWeakieT
                  TheWeakie @waffelzNoob
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                  @zwaffelnoob said in Spearhead the underappreciated:

                  aeon TMD is actually pretty bad and gets overwhelmed by mass MML spam, spearheads especially because they shoot barrages instead of single missiles

                  Yea buddy say that again when a few aeon tmd stop 100k mass worth of missile ships

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                    A Former User @waffelzNoob
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                    @zwaffelnoob said in Spearhead the underappreciated:

                    aeon TMD is actually pretty bad and gets overwhelmed by mass MML spam, spearheads especially because they shoot barrages instead of single missiles

                    dropping spearheads around to snipe mex or something sounds cool (might try it), but i'm wondering if it would be a better alternative to simple t1 arty drops

                    Spearheads have 1700 HP and don't die to a single bomber, range 80 means you can destroy more per drop, and they only cost twice that of T1 arties per full transport (which is still only 400 mass per spearhead), and there is always space in transports for additional T1 arties. DPS per transport is the same (if we don't add additional T1 arties with spearheads).

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                      Exselsior @TheWeakie
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                      @thewheelie said in Spearhead the underappreciated:

                      @zwaffelnoob said in Spearhead the underappreciated:

                      aeon TMD is actually pretty bad and gets overwhelmed by mass MML spam, spearheads especially because they shoot barrages instead of single missiles

                      Yea buddy say that again when a few aeon tmd stop 100k mass worth of missile ships

                      Yeah the only thing bad about Aeon tmd is its range. I recently turtled against this exact example using aeon tmd without much effort. It also counters the Cybran tml split.

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                      • waffelzNoobW
                        waffelzNoob @TheWeakie
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                        @thewheelie yea buddy say that again when i lose my nuke to 2-3 sera cruisers with a t3 shield and 5 aeon tmd covering it
                        my placement wasn't great but if i had any other faction's tmd i could've just safely placed 3 under the shield and they would've defended against the cruisers easily

                        torrent is a different story i guess but if ur vs torrents ur fucked anyway

                        frick snoops!

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                          A Former User
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                          I actually tested SMDs, and Aeon are the worst if we have a lot of missiles incoming, Cybran are the best. Well, it's is possible to desync Aeon SMDs, or even secretly make a UI mod that does it. Then, they would be unstoppable.

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                          • FtXCommandoF
                            FtXCommando
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                            Issue with spearhead drops come from the fact you need a t3 land hq on top of likely a t3 air hq cuz a t2 transport carries only 2 or 3 t3 land units. They would be great if you think about a spearhead drop being there, problem is that getting it there is so much setup and tedium you would be significantly more efficient with a t1 arty drop 4-5 minutes earlier.

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                              A Former User @FtXCommando
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                              @ftxcommando said in Spearhead the underappreciated:

                              Issue with spearhead drops come from the fact you need a t3 land hq on top of likely a t3 air hq cuz a t2 transport carries only 2 or 3 t3 land units. They would be great if you think about a spearhead drop being there, problem is that getting it there is so much setup and tedium you would be significantly more efficient with a t1 arty drop 4-5 minutes earlier.

                              T1 transports are enough, and there may not be upgraded mexes to kill if you rush it. It's just an alternative to dropping T1 arties, percies and T3 bombers.

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                                Exselsior
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                                T1 transports are virtually useless for aggressive drops at the t3 stage.

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                                  Aulex @Exselsior
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                                  @exselsior the harbie in a t1 transport is iconic

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                                    Exselsior @Aulex
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                                    @aulex Fair that is iconic, I guess useless is too strong of a word.

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